I was read the "how many guy/girls" thread and it made wonder what do we call sex? I guess its the old bill clinton question. The first night that I was with my wife we both stayed fully clothed but were grinding so hards when we were making out that we both came. (We agreed on our second date that we should dispense any modest pretenses). Was that sex or just hot making out. What about other safe sex/non penetration acts? And what is "cyber sex exactly?"