Massage has been discussed in other threads under Foreplay, but I found some new products. I used the Stick on my wife last night, and the stick made massage easier, with less effort on my part, and took less focus for my mind, and gave some results (a more recptive wife). The stick is about 10 One inch wide rollers, in a row, about an Inch and a quarter in diameter, with a rod through the middle of the rollers, and a handle on each end. The Stick is available in running sores, and there are other models. The Trigger Roller is one roller wheel, about a Quarter Inch wide, rounded, about 1 1/2 Inches in diameter, on a handle. Looks effective, and could get deeper easier. The information website is http://www.intracell.net. Apparently you can't buy the products off the web. I am intersted in developing my Rolfing techniques. I have been meaning to get a Rolphing massage so I can understand what it is, and use it on my wife. I havce some books, but the books tell you the theory, not how to actually do it. I thought I would start a thread heare on massage techniques, so we can have a reference thread. I know I should improve my massage skills. Ideas?