Why pornography is good

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  1. longverythick

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    Pornography is an art. It shows human expression and creativity. It is a beautiful thing. It is sexy, fun and enjoyable to watch. It shows intimacy and love between two lovers. It increases sexual sensitivity. Do you watch pornographic material with your lover or do you masturbate to it? What is your favorite type of pornography?
     
  2. Mittimer

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    I see that you've came back for more... tsk tsk and to think, I figured you had learned your lesson.

    Anyhow.
    To answer your questions first. I do in fact watch porn with my guy. No we have never used it to turn us on, it's more of a "OHOH! That looks nifty lets check it out" I don't masturbate to porn, it doesn't get me going like most people. My favorite type of porn is amateur or home movie style.


    Now, onto what you've said.

    Porn is an art in the sense that it has two beautiful (by society's standards) people, sometimes 3 or 4 or 5 or so on. It shows bodies in the act of what SHOULD be a beautiful thing. However porn industries have all but ruined that for most of us. There is nothing artful or tasteful or even beautiful about a girl vomiting because you choke her with your cock. *Slapping someones face with your junk once it's been in her ass or pussy, also not art. Just disgusting.

    Creativity? Wait, let me get back to that.

    Beautiful? No *see above

    It's sexy fun and beautiful to watch? Maybe for you, but then again you are the same guy who came in asking if your cock was big enough to choke a girl and make her bleed. What is sexy about a man forcing himself on a girl? Or better yet, a girl being cum on by a dozen men. Yeah, they moan, they smile, they pretend like they like it. Then again, if I were being paid thousands of dollars per movie, I'd probably pretend I liked it too.

    Intimacy?! Love?! Are you kidding me?! There is NOTHING intimate about 99% of the professionally done porn now days. SOME amateur and some home movies are of people 'making love' not just fucking. Go watch a porn right now, I bet you a $1 that the couples you're watching don't even look each other in the eyes. Yeah, that's love. Last I checked when me and my fiancee are fucking or making love, we always kiss and always look each other in the eyes. Can't say the same for most of the bullshit that passes for it now days.

    Back to this creativity thing...

    Ok, generally a porn goes like this. :)

    *Girl and guy meet (somehow, some where they meet)
    *Girl acts shy or like a slut, either way it ends up like this
    *Guy pulls his junk out
    *Girl sucks
    *Guy undresses girl and fingers her (SOMETIMES he even goes down on her too)
    *Guy and girl begin to fuck
    *random positions are thrown around
    *Midway through he puts it up her ass
    *She sucks again (because we all know that ass to mouth shows love and is just so HOT)
    *She gets on top for a while
    *He fucks her again
    *He pulls out because he's ready for that money shot!
    *Man bricks all over girls face and she smiiiiiiiiiles and licks it all up


    Yeah..that's creative. From your posts I've seen that you seem to watch WAY to much porn as you base everything you've said on here about it.

    One last little tid bit. If you think porn is just so beautiful, how would you feel if that was your Daughter up there doing that? Choking on that cock, being bitch slapped around, being forced to the floor, or fucked till she bleeds?

    Tell me now if you think it's a beautiful thing.
     
  3. igor

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    Well put Mittmer!

    I look at a lot of porn sites and I actually watch maybe 2 percent of what I see. It is so text-book and boring usually.
     
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    I tend to agree with Mittimer and Igor. In my view, as with any art or athletic form, 95% of it is crap. My wife and I see it more as an infrequent amusement than as anything serious. Even then we are extremely discerning. It is much more enjoyable to see a real couple where both are actually enjoying it, that paid actors. I can understand how some can say porn is "good", but I cannot help but wonder sometimes if those extolling it as an overall and total goodness are lacking a personal intimate connection with someone, which in my experience is far, far more enjoyable than abstract images of strangers.
     
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    In my thread in the AP&V forum, "Those two look like they're enjoying it", in yesterday's post, I said I use it to keep myself heated up for my wife, or to get off when that isn't working out often enough. I wrote that over there in response to this thread for reasons I stated there, but I came back here to add to it.

    I have a love-hate relationship with porn. As for the "Love" part of the equation, I am fascinated with sex and love watching people really getting into it and leading up to a satisfied finish. But that is so much like real life that it's becoming almost impossible to find any more.

    Popular porn now is mostly people going through all sorts of uncomfortable contortions designed for the camera, just pounding away. Maybe if I bought DVDs it would be better, but that ain't happening. Sometimes it looks to me like some of the actors are being forced to do this against their will and maybe drugged. I know it happens, it always has as long as porn has existed. Lots of times I will just click away from those, but sometimes I feel a little bad about supporting the market for it. I don't like doing things than make me feel bad. So, I guess that's the "Hate" side of it.

    So, what do you think of what I'm saying, longverythick? Did you check out my other thread in the AP&V?

    Or maybe you are actually a sensual guy and you're just baiting us for sport.:D
     
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    I don't watch a lot of porn actually I just found out about it not that long ago from a site called YouPorn. You must be really picky because I have watched probably 10 videos and they were all entertaining to me. You sound judgmental.

    I am sensual I am a virgin because I'm christian and saving myself for my wife. I want to cuddle and touch non sexually for a really long time and always talk a lot sometimes I sing when I touch myself.

    I don't know why it is so offensive for a boy to ask about his physical appearance when women ask if they are ugly fat short or have small breasts and that is considered fine. Did it really make me sound that insecure?

    One last thing I have to ask what is your view of having consensual sex with parents? I'm asking on a friend's behalf.

    And since you're talking about sports what do you like to play? I love all sports and I especially like football and swimming because they are so easy.
     
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    Jesus H Tap dancing fucking Christ.
    You call yourself a Christian? Wow...just wow.

    I have no problem with you calling yourself a Christian, but this post is going to be angry and I advise you not to read it if you're easily offended.

    First off before I get into the nit picking and pointing out how you are a very SINFUL Christian and throwing Bible verses at you to prove that. Let me answer a few of your questions.

    No, it's not wrong to ask about your body and look for compliments. It doesn't make you look insecure or anything like that either. The way you worded it and how you asked if it were big enough to choke a girl or make her bleed, yeah, that was really douchey and makes you look like a troll, not someone actually searching for answers.

    Is incest bad when it's consensual? Oh my fucking god. -______-
    Whether you're really asking for yourself or for a friend or to just get a rise out of us here that's just really stupid to ask. I can only assume that you know the laws of the United States? I can also assume that you're aware that it's against the law to fuck your parents in a lot of states?

    Let me save you some time of looking it up. In EVERY state other then New Jersey, it is 100% ILLEGAL to fuck anyone in your immediate family up to your first cousin. That means Mom, Dad, Sister, Brother, Grandma, Grandpa, Aunt, Uncle. Even in some states it's against the law to fuck STEP family members. So if your friend wants to spend a minimum of 5 years in prison for fucking mom or dad? Yeah, I advise against it.

    Now! To the fun part.

    Boy, I don't know how you can claim your a Christian, unless of course you're one of those who think you can sin away during the week and as long as you ask for your forgiveness on Sunday, you can get away with it.

    St. Matthew 5: 28 :But I say unto you, That whosover looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

    PORN IS A SIN by that. Those ten videos you watched? Darling, you're going to hell for it. Unless of course you ask for forgiveness.

    Also, It's commonly quoted but not in the scriptures, "It is better to cast your seed in the belly of a whore than to spill it on the ground" so jerking your junk to that porn you're so in love with? Double whammy. First class ticket I'd say.

    Pointing out your a Christian to us and that you're sensual and saving yourself for your wife but you talk about showing your cock to many girls, ask about choking them, making them bleed, hell even posting about a study you read about skin health and depression and I guess that was your way of saying us girls should suck more cock and get more money shots!

    I asked you for a citation on said study and you still haven't provided that to me. yet you had the time to come in and say that I/We are judgmental.

    If you don't want us to be judgmental, then maybe you shouldn't be asking such off the wall questions in manners that leave you open for replies you don't like.

    I apologize to anyone else here who IS in fact a Christian. My goal wasn't to offend you.
     
  8. Mittimer

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    Let me add one more thing. You brag about masturbating on the phone with a girl.

    Last I checked, that's called 'phone SEX'...

    You have done everything but save yourself for your wife as you are partaking in a sexual act all be it not "tab A into slot B" sex, it's sex nonetheless.
     
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    Yes, you're right, I am really picky. As I mentioned I look for specific stuff that is obviously less in demand by the porn watching masses. But I have watched hundreds of videos. I usually FF through the parts that don't get me hot.

    That's all good, but some of your questions and statements have led us to believe you had a more cold blooded approach to sex. If you were only trying to stir debate or emotional responses, then it worked.

    It's one of the most frequent concerns we see here at SF, and it is always from people that are just at the beginning of their sexual lives and are understandably facing a lot of unknowns, and insecurities. Insecurity is okay and quite natural.

    We don't discuss illegal topics here for obvious reasons.

    I am strictly a spectator these days. I played baseball as a kid and in high school, and I'm keenly interested in it right now because my home town team is in the finals of the College World Series. In the winter I love college football, especially the same team and the Southeastern Conference (SEC). My son has always been an athlete, so I've learned a lot about cross-country, track and lacrosse, as well as climbing.
     
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    I just realized I missed the part about sounding judgmental, so I figured I'd comment on that. Like everyone I make judgments all day long, it's how you make decisions, and sometimes I express them as opinions. But I re-read my post and I'm not sure which part you are referring to. So, please tell me what you think about these statements I made:

    This describes the "love" side of my love-hate equation. Is it the part about my comparison to real life that you find overbearing? If not, tell me.

    That was about the "hate" side of the equation. If that's it, again, please point out where you think I have overbearing judgment.

    I left out the first paragraph because I didn't express any opinions in it. I'm not denying that I am sometimes judgmental, I just don't see what you are talking about here. So, please tell me.
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    PS: Back to sports. My Gamecocks just beat our instate arch rival twice in a row to advance to the College World Series championship games; Best of 3 games against UCLA starting Monday. Hell yeah baby!:D
     
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    So far, I have to say that I agree 100% with Mit. Although I do tend to watch a bit of porn every now and then with my fiancee, most of it just seems like the same thing over and over. There is one that we can get into, called Janine Loves Jenna, but we have had the hardest time finding something similar. The thing is, you can only watch the same thing so many many times before it gets stale.

    The big thing I see wrong here is that the OP seems to be contradicting himself every time he posts something up. It is really starting to sound almost like he is here just trying to piss people off for S&G's.
     
  12. Mittimer

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    I've come to that conclusion too. That he's just here for S's and G's and wants to get a rise out of us. Thankfully for him, I like to fight for S's and G's and get a rise out of people who are trying to get a rise out of me. ^^
     
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    Hi. Thank you all for your replies. I do love attention and that is my main motivation so yeah I do need to work on that. I do love Jesus and I go to church, read the bible, pray, listen to only christian music and sing as well. I wasn't aware that pornography is a sin but since you say so I will believe you. I haven't done any more of that and I do pray for forgiveness and I always forgive anyone who hurts me sincerely from my heart, so I know that God forgives me my sins. I am very sorry for the foolish things I have said, too.

    I never knew that much about sex but I became very curious about it when people tell me stuff. I didn't know that women enjoy sex until I was 16 when I met a girl online. We played chess together and she started telling me how she was raped. I was compassionate to her and she abused me because she was lying. When I was 18 I met a different girl on the phone and I don't know why but after talking with me for only an hour she wanted to have phone sex with me. I didn't know what that was but she told me about it and that she was already doing it. I didn't want to do anything but I liked to talk with her so I did.

    Why is it always the nice girls that I like that want to do that? I have had phone sex with about 3 different girls. I have never asked for it or even said anything sexual, they are always the first to ask. The only reason why I showed it to girls is because I got a web cam and I loved to watch myself on it. Then some girls asked to see it and I thought that was hot that they wanted to see it and it made me really want to show them. They treated me so well and had pretty faces too.

    Would you be disappointed if you found out that 4 girls saw your husbands penis and that he had phone sex with 3 girls? I'm not going to do that anymore because I don't want to sin against God.

    I wasn't bragging about masturbating on the phone but I don't know why it would be wrong. I do have a conscience and I feel it when the Holy Spirit convicts me of sin but when I did it on the phone with my friend I asked her and she said that it didn't make her feel bad, and she was glad that we did and then we read Proverbs together, prayed and went to bed.

    According to you is masturbating a sin? I think it is a necessary part of life and that God wants you to do it to relieve sexual tension and so that you don't burn sexually in desire. The part about spilling semen, you must be referring to Genesis 38. That is a very specific situation where the Lord wanted Onan to make a baby. I don't think one can fairly say from that that spilling semen is wrong. The bible never mentions masturbation or says that it is good or bad.
     
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    I'm not qualified to address Biblical scriptures, but we are naturally sexual animals. I agree that masturbation is a necessary part of life for the reason you stated.
     
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    I knew this girl for a while (and maturity wise she was a girl) who did a porno... Some guy just came up to her in the street and offered her £200 to have sex with this bloke in a hotel room..

    It was all very modern and liberating apparently and she was really keen to talk about it... she even had clips of it on her mobile...

    I think what struck me first of all was the way she said £200 ... as it if was tens of thousands... the next thing was the was she regurgitated this whole series of arguments as if she was trying to convince us porn was the fashionable thing to do...

    It was all fun, tasteful, ... and that old chestnut "she was comfortable with her own body"... that actually made me laugh...

    She couldn't shut up about it for a week, and then after that she never wanted to talk about it... though people would bring it up when they wanted to push her buttons...

    At the time she was 18 years old.... I don't know what she's doing now but I know it's going to stay with her for life....
     
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    The other thing about doing porn is that it can easily come back and haunt you later in life too.....:eyes
    For possible future husbands, children or friends......that footage will always be out there somewhere:ugh
     
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    We're on it.
     
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    I also think like that.....
     
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    From my opinion, watching pornography is good sometimes. It stop the rape cases and instantly you can fulfill the desire.