Who are you going to vote for?

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Who will you vote for?

Poll closed Nov 22, 2004.
  1. George Bush

    3 vote(s)
    33.3%
  2. John Kerry

    2 vote(s)
    22.2%
  3. Ralph Nader

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Undecided

    2 vote(s)
    22.2%
  5. I'm not going to vote

    2 vote(s)
    22.2%
  6. I don't even live in America, asshole.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. Frank Grimes

    Frank Grimes New Member

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    Who will get your vote in the upcoming presidential election?
     
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    lancer674 New Member

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    I'm voting for George W. Bush. I am very confident in that decision, for a number of reasons. Looking at both men's complete records has given me a thorough picture of each man's tendencies. With a complete picture I have concluded that President Bush is a better candidate for holding this office. Of course, we could get tied up in swiftboats or national guard service(or lack thereof), we could talk about Vietnam and medals thrown away. We could talk about WMD's or the lack of them, we could talk about supporting a war and then not voting to fund it. There a lot of issues that if you are not careful you could get distracted from the issue at hand. The issue is this, who is the best man for the job to protect this land, to protect us from people that dream of our deaths in the most horrendous of fashions merely because you breath air on american soil and are a believer of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Keep this in mind when you think of who is the best man for the job, conclude your decision with, do you want more taxes or tax relief? More government intervention or less, an attempt at education reform or the status quo? Do you want a man that is firm in his belief or waivers under pressure? I have thought my decision through and I urge you to study the facts and make your decision based on a complete picture and whatever settles well with your conscience.
     
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    I may vote for Bush, but as a gay person that is a much more complicated decision. Kerry is an absolute fool with a poor record behind him (he missed 89% of Senate votes last year). The vietnam war thing should be a thing of the past. It should not be brought up. John Kerry has made it a personal issue and that is what pissed me off. My uncle actually fought in that war for 24 months, and Kerry did his lousy stupid four months (where he was probably in Saigon drinking most of the time). Bush is the best man for the job when compared to Kerry, but his stance on gay marriage is despicable and horrendous. I'd vote for Bush reluctantly. But it seems I'm not going to vote at all.
     
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    Giancarlo, I feel for ya on that issue, it does sound like a tough one to work through. Even though you might not vote for president (Which I encourage you to do, one way or the other), you should at least consider voting for your state and local representatives. For these would probably affect your life even that much more.
     
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    If it has to do with Arnold, I'd definitely vote in favor for. So eventually, yeah my vote would probably be in support of the republican party. Arnold Schwarzenegger has done a lot of good for this state. I'm undecided on the presidencial race. I may vote Bush the last minute. Definitely not Kerry.

    In California things are done somewhat differently.. I'm voting against Prop 68 which would allow more casinos to be built (increasing crime and traffic.. and it is bad enough). So there is plenty of state legislation up for the ballot... I think there are more props I have to investigate.
     
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    That casino thing is tough. I'm in Iowa, right in the middle of casino country. I live in a town of 25,000 and the city is trying to get a riverboat casino brought in. Everyone talks of the revenue but I always keep in mind what else casinos bring in. The decision is up to the casino commission at the state level to determine if more licenses will be granted, I'm undecided on that issue, haven't studied enough on it. I really haven't been paying much attention to local politics for I am moving to Peoria, Ill. in December to get my B.A.

    I am a big fan of Arnold and his politics, I hope he is successful out there, I think he will do a lot of good.
     
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    We have plenty of casinos here in this state. The thing is these additional casinos are huge. Many will be built throughout L.A county. That's not acceptable. The possible revenue will be outweighed by increased crime, increased police duty and it will cancel out, in fact costing the state more money then they bring. Here in California, it is up to the voters in Prop 68.

    He so far is doing very well... he got passed a sound budget, prop 56 and 57 that were crucial in his plan and is pushing the state back on economic track (as he presents a business friendly approach, in contrast to the terrible former governor Gray Davis).
     
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    I'm glad he is doing a good job, glad to hear it. Hope he keeps up the great work. What is his position on casinos and gay marriage?
     
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    Well, we are in a Catch-22. We eithe vote for Bush, which may lead to something bad, or we have to vote for Kerry.

    Either vote for Bush, or the 'other' guy is what we are in.
     
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    Arnold is against prop 68 and is against the construction of these huge casinos that would attract high levels of traffic and crime. Arnold isn't for gay marriage though, but is known to be more tolerant towards gay people (he supports civil unions).