What is the deal with the "forced deep throat" trend?

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  1. farewellolds

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    It seems like its gotten so common in porn videos, to see a guy forcibly making a girl deep throat him until the point of her choking horribly and retching until she almost pukes. A lot of it just looks violent and like a form of torment, those girls are just abused. I worry, is this trend translating into something outside of porn too?

    All the time I hear guys saying that they like this stuff and it's a turn on. I also have come across many threads by young women who were not so thrilled about it, explaining how their boyfriends forced their heads down and made them gag and so on, and asking why guys do it. One girl said you'd be surprised how many guys she has been with who thought it was okay to just do that. Most of it tends to come from younger adults, my age.

    In fact, just a bit ago this young guy was bragging about how he was going to ask his girlfriend to give him his first "throat job", and he was talking about exactly this, saying how likes seeing the girls gag in videos, and his gf has no idea about it. I found it depressing, there was sense of a complete lack of compassion and respect for his girl in his words. That seems to be exactly what such kind of porn does to guys who watch it. I explained the concept of empathy to him, but who knows if it got through.

    I thought this was "just a porn thing", like they say. But I'm starting to worry it's become a problem outside of porn now. To me it just seems like something so extreme and abusive and degrading to women that it could not become normalized. I can't imagine most women in the real world putting up with it, either. But maybe I'm wrong?
     
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    I am afraid of the same thing too, younger uneducated people having unreal expectations, girls trying too hard, boys not respecting girls.

    For any guy thinking about forcing someone, there are words for that,
    the words used when being charged.
    Besides, it's a lot sexier and more fun to have someone doing it willingly, or trying too.
     
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    Yes I don't know I'm sure it cant be fun for the girl... Good question though i think it a dominance thing. I wold not want to put a girl through that and if there are any younger guys out there I'm gonna go with this will more then lily reduce your chances of get blowjobs...
     
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    It is a terrible feeling, especially when you're not ready for it. To deep throat in the first place, you have to be completely relaxed, and have your gag reflex under control, and know when to breathe, and how big of a breath you need to take. One guy did this to me, and I did throw up, along with almost fainting because he wouldn't release my head. Honestly felt like I was drowning. Needless to say, I slapped him silly and never spoke to him again. To me, I feel like it can be a form of rape. Might sound silly, but that's just my take on it, from my experience.
     
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    I am in total agreement with all of the above comments but will add that many guys also consider anal sex in the same brutal manner.
    Seems to me many people have forgotten the true function of male & female genitalia.
     
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    I too agree with all above. Seems like abuse and like one post mentions,nothing is more of a turn on then when a woman wants to be doing what she's doing.
    is it a respect thing? I hate to sound like the old geezer but the whole pimp ho talk amongst tye youth is wrong. Guys refer to their gf as my ho,my bitch.
    I belive in treating woman like ladies. Call me ol school
     
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    I like that statement. I also agree with a few of the above comments :)

    Me well.. I haven't deep throated anyone yet. I don't know how and I personally don't find it at all appealing to attempt. When I see it in porn it does nothing for me... the thought of being sick is really gross.

    I have taken it in as far as it can comfortably go.. yeah I have gagged but that's usually when I do the okay let's slow down and go back to how I was enjoying giving the BJ..*in my mind*

    I mean having tears coming out of my eyes isn't attractive I wouldn't think... and well it's not cool when they're pushing your head down hard.. well I like it when my head is being "put in the motion" by their hand/hands but pressing down hard to the point where I am gagging isn't the greatest feeling.

    I think it is a dominance thing.. me personally I'm too much of a "lover" to get into deep throating.
     
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    i agree also, women should be treated with a good deal more respect
     
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    I never understood it as well.
    Why must people ( especially porn people) continually portray acts that are not only disrespectful, but also just dont feel good? Face Slapping, Choking BJ's, and the likes are more about the objectification of the female. I think for younger people, this is more like watching superman and thinking you can fly. I'm pretty sure the concept doesnt bode well in the real world with most ladies, and the last thing you want to do is piss off a woman who has your cock in a very vulnerable position.

    Personally, I prefer to sit back and let her work her magic.
     
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    I did it once with my ex, she liked it she said because she liked the submissive part of the whole deal. I liked it just because i wanted to have done it once haha. For now i dont feel the need to do that again. Was fun to do it once, don't have the need for twice.
     
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    Today I came across another guy who said "he likes to face fuck his gf" and he is asking what makeup he should get to swap his girlfriends, because he "likes how her eyes run and wants her makeup to follow" when he does so. Apparently she doesn't look miserable enough to him, so he needs to see her makeup run? Sure doesn't sound like he's talking about someone he cares about to me.

    Then again the general consensus over there seems to be that if you're a guy and this bothers you you're the "new-age sensitive wimpy type" that girls hate, that this stuff is a proof of manhood somehow and that girls actually want this, and shouldn't have to tell their man to do it.

    It's a relief to see that sentiment isn't echoed here.
     
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    We have tried it once and I hate it. If it catches you off guard you don't have air. I don't mind giving bj's. But don't force it, because you will never get another. I also don't like hands on my head while I'm giving a bj, for fear of holding my head too tight by accident. Freaks me out...lol
     
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    Yes I thought the point of sex was mutual enjoyment. I don't see how forcing your cock down your partner's can be mutual unless it's in the context of BDSM.

    Like Untamed, I've pushed my own boundaries regarding how far I can go and gagged quite a few times but I've always had the ability to pull back when things have gotten too much. How can risking vomit on your privates be a turn on?

    I really don't get it.
     
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    I don't like it. I've had girls do that themselves, if you can't just slide it down your throat easily fine, but forcing it hurts.
     
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    Yeah, I don't think there necessarily has to be anything wrong with porn, but I have seen this sort of thing way too often, and I don't go looking for it. I like it when a girl is slutty and naughty with a big smile on her face, but not this choking coughing thing. Also, what's with the straight-from-the-ass-to-the-pussy-or-mouth thing? If people like anal sex that's fine, but be careful about it. You don't want those bacteria in the wrong place. I wish there would be far less anal sex in porn, but that's me.

    I have also seen young people being confused like this, actually starting with my own generation. When we were teens, a friend of mine thought "doggy style" automatically meant anal (which should make you wonder how dogs procreate:D). Many kids also think that you can easily just slide it into the ass, or that deep-throating is something they can expect. They get all of this from porn, or from friends bragging (who really just picked it up from porn).
     
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    I think for the guy it makes him feel strong like he is in control he is the man she is the bitch and might be an ego boost haha I have a big dick it bmade u gag. To me it is stupid but itg shows u how our younger generation is growing mentally. For the girl I think they force themselves to the point where ju lie enough you believe your own lie they think they enjoy it because they think they need to please their boy in anyway or else he will leave or she wontg be cool. Just my 2 cents
     
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    I think so.. guys I've slept with have tried to do that to me before and I hate it.. i think with something like that the guy should make sure you're ok with doing it first, and not try to force you.. I've slept with some total jerks :/ but yeah lots of guys seem to be obsessed with deepthroating, and I don't like it at all :(
     
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    It is definitely a control thing. Obvious arrogance and contempt for women on the part of men who assume this is ok to do without consent. I've seen numerous vids and whole websites devoted to this, and it seems to be a growing trend, just like "facials" were a few years ago. Some of the performances I've watched, the woman was actually into it as much as the guy, kind of like a badge of honor. The pendulum swings, I suppose.

    I can relate to how it feels, however, because R will sometimes allow me to give her a "face fucking" or guide her head with my hands, but it is always under her control. She does not allow me to cum in her mouth or on her face. Interestingly, we just had a discussion about this due to another thread about "swallowing."

    T
     
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    Sorry to be the lone voice on anti-porn, but it is a disgusting industry. It is scripted. It glorifies abuse and perversion. It makes more money in this country than all three major-league sports combined. And, Farewellolds is right - because of the huge viewership, we have a whole society of people who use it as a model for their behavior and then wonder why they don't have lasting, high-caliber relationships.

    There may be some women who "like it rough" - but even they don't want to be abused or disrespected. We watch marriages go down the tubes despite our national obsession with sex - porn is part of the cause. For all its stimulating allure, porn does nothing to help people have a good sex life together.
     
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    You're not alone there. I mostly agree, I really can't stand porn most of the time anymore because of what it has become and I'm near washing my hands of it. Does more harm imo, than it does to help anything. It's the source of many relationship woes and has become the encyclopedia-dramatic of sex and too many guys my age take it to heart. I also believe a lot of people are truly addicted to it.