The whole milf thing.

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  1. nicelynoosed

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    I've always been captivated, intrigued, and aroused by moms, especially hot moms.

    I've no idea how girls conceptualize sex when they are young, but my juvenile (6, 7, 8 year old) mind knew one thing: moms had had sex! I couldn't be sure about the dads, but the moms had definitely done it.

    This was, of course, a point of endless fascination.

    One thing often left out from even the most basic explanations of sex for kids was just how often intercourse happened. I had no idea. Once per child? Twice per year? When the moon was full or when it was high tide? Zero clue. I knew about the parts, and vaguely how they joined up, but nothing more. This was in the 70's, when attitudes were changing but not all the way there yet.

    'Where Do Babies Come From?' was the go-to book in our household, and I revisited it many times to try to glean new wisdom from its' pages. It was a very, very simplistic explanation accompanied by mildly psychedelic oil-pastel drawings. The explanation of sex was something like 'then the man lies so close to the woman that his penis fits in her vagina', followed quickly by 'then the sperm find the egg'. So, points deducted automatically for not mentioning erections or orgasms.

    For years before I began masturbating, I thought that the microscopic sperm traveled from a limp penis to the egg undetectably. Somehow, in a fashion akin to an elephants' trunk or an cephalopod's tentacle, that wily old penis must snake up in there and then the little sperm must march off to meet up with the egg. Perhaps once I managed to make some hair down there, I guessed, I would be able to control that presumably prehensile appendage. Childbirth, moreover, was a calm and straightforward affair, if the serene expressions in the illustrations were to be believed. That at least was my interpretation.

    But once I learned about orgasms, I realized that all my ideas regarding sex had one serious drawback. They were completely wrong.

    Suddenly, the dads were all lucky bastards, screwing their wives as I did my bedsheets (I thought mimicking coitus was a requirement for ejaculation; don't ask about the chafing) every chance that they got. Presumably, it took infinitely more tries than I had expected to become pregnant, otherwise the wives would surely have nothing to do with the whole business.

    This misapprehension did not last long. Unable to grow the convincing moustache necessary to buy dirty magazines, I instead went to the public library and hid romance novels inside comic books and boy-scout manuals.

    Conclusion: Evidently, sex was not unpleasant for women.

    As realizations went, this was the real stunner. Finding out that wives (and girlfriends and even ladies one had only just met at restaurants, and especially girls living in rural villages near to lordly estates) could enjoy sex was almost as mind-blowing as the revelation that when aroused, a woman's lovely ladyparts became slippery and warm.

    That really improved my masturbatory experience, I can tell you. It honestly had not occurred to me to try lube before that time. I went from 'do-it-once, heal for a week' to 'EVERY DAY! HOW ABOUT NOW'? because of hormones. I was also able to fantasize about sex in new and exciting ways, and most of the time, I used as examples only those women who I could be absolutely certain had actually had a man's penis inside them.

    Moms.

    It was definitely moms, and definitely moms below a certain age. Grandmas were sacred, loving, cookie-givers who often took children to toy stores and to ice-cream emporiums. Clearly, they had never had sex. They were practically angels.

    The moms were, however, another story. If my Harlequin Romance novels were to be believed, mothers were highly charged and sweetly passionate creatures whose fiery desires suddenly flipped on somewhere between age 33 and 44. Then, they were hardly ever not having sex, especially because I skipped most of the non-nookie chapters.

    This insight, however slight, turned women into human beings for me. Up until that point, however pleasant I found them, women were clearly aliens, others, and visitors from another dimension. Suddenly, they wanted exactly what I did: to be naked and having orgasms all the time. 'HOW ABOUT NOW?' To have any chance at that, one clearly needed to emulate the heroes of those bodice-rippers, and be really nice, a little brooding, and a good listener. If porn objectifies women, erotica humanizes them. I owe so much of my meager understanding regarding the ways of love to those cheaply printed, over-read, dreadfully planned novels. They led me to serious writing about sex, and I've been hooked on the written word ever since.

    Knowing that my female counterparts were, in fact, also H. Sapiens did not unlock for me any treasure trove of understanding regarding the female response cycle. I wanted to be the hero, the virile, courageous being, and for that I would need some sort of external validation because I wouldn't be able to tell if they were enjoying any of it.

    A huge part of the male sexual psychosis is wrapped up in proof. Why do we like the closeups and money shots in porn? To prove that the actors are really doing it. Why do we like having the lights on or moving your hair to the side so that we can watch a blowjob? To see that its' really happening. Why do we obsess about the size of our penises and faked orgasms? Because otherwise we can't tell if we're really men.

    For me, moms were emblematic of that proof. They'd done it. There were the kids. ... Excellent.

    I can't say to what degree those early attitudes affected me. I certainly don't have little boy fantasies and I find I'm most attracted to women around my own age, which is closer to grandparenthood than any other life phase. But I still love flirting with, talking to, listening to, and, whenever possible, fucking moms. They know mortgages. They know sleepovers and soccer schedules and atrocious school concerts. There's something profoundly sexy about knowing that nearly all the women teachers, from kindergarten to AP Calculus, have sucked a cock or been taken from behind. I'd check out the brand (spanking!) new mom with an infant stroller weeks before I'd glance at the college co-ed standing next to her, and I have to think that a big part of that centers on the sexual being that woman has shown herself to be. I get macking on hot, yoga-pants-wearing moms and on feisty, fifty-esque proto-grandmothers.

    I wrote all of that just to ask other people what it is about the milf thing. Is it the 'mama lion' attitude or the 'getting wild when I can' adventures? Do you like things less fraught or more confident? For us larger fellas, is performance easier after childbirth...and infancy of course, when you don't get any sleep...and toddlerhood, naturally because you are listening to hear if the little rascal has escaped again...and the preschool years, because they spent the last eighteen hours asking you questions about everything in the entire universe...and primary school, because you're worried they'll be abducted...or secondary school, because they are hormonal shitheads...but finally, once they've made it to university, because they've taken all your money to go there and you have nothing else to do?

    Ever so curious,

    NN

    Postscript: Ladies, do DILFS work the same way? Can't wait to hear!
     
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  2. Alwayslearningsex

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    Amen. Thre are the pre-milfs, the milfs, the post-milfs. All enjoyed and enjoyable over the years. Amen to that too.
     
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    Damn, that's a dissertation. MILFs are hot! No getting around it. A woman being fucked regularly by her husband is one of the hottest things around.
     
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    I don't get this whole MILF thing. I don't find mothers any sexier, or more desirable, than women who have not had children.
     
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    I agree, I don't mind the use of the word but I don't use it.
    Rather it's women, younger, older, etc, persons. Kids or no kids, sex is still good all the same for what I experienced.
     
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    LOL, I think that the milf thing is just about appreciating more mature women, aka cougars. I've passed right on by milf's and and don't mind seeing sexy gilf's now.
     
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    Very interesting opinion! I've been curious about the milf fascination!
     
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    Personally I think the term Milf sounds rediculous and use it in light hearted jest and not serious ever.
    And the way I see it ,it really has nothing to do with them having kids but more of a housewife that breaks loose and gets wild out of her norm out of lust. ..primarily for the person who wants the " Milf ".
    And I am 40 so does it even count?
     
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    I think that 40 is about the youngest "cougar" age, but I don't think that there's any minimum or maximum age for MILF. They could be 18, or 80. If a woman has not raised children, I don't see how this term could be applied to her.
     
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    I guess I just kind of lump them together because I don't take the term seriously but you have a good point
     
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    Also, IMHO, any woman who has not borne any children herself, but adopted and raised one or more, should be included in the category of MILF.
     
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    It is an overused term. I think that the proper use of the term applies to actual mother's i.e. " I picked up my kids from school today. It was mostly Mom's. Most of the women were not that good looking but, there was one really sexy woman there. Now that is a Mom I would like to fuck."

    Or, "We went to Disney World for vacation. The pool was crowded but at least there were some MILF'S in bikinis to look at."
     
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    Someone told me that it's the idea that a woman can be so nurturing and caring, yet dirty and naughty that is such a turn on. So, I really don't think it's a term specified only towards women that gave birth.
     
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    I have a huge attraction to the whole MILF thing. I named my wife's contact info in my phone "MILF" several years ago and have been too lazy to change it. So pay no attention to my opinion since it's a pretty small pool of Moms I would like to fuck. LOL
     
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    I'm a big fan of milfs, but not due to the whole nurturing dynamic. I think the appeal of milfs(and the childless cougars) is a rejection of what life tends to teach young men, that when it comes to women, age is the enemy.
    Personally I had so much frustration in my teens and early 20's dealing with my female peers. I internalized it as my fault exclusively until my late 20's when I realized the same qualities I had always possessed were now attractive to women my age or older.
     
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    I'd like to use this to agree generally with all the people who object to/dispute the term 'milf'. I am pretty big on words, as should be pretty clear by now, and only use 'milf' because I think people will get super-bored if I unpack the term any further.

    I concur that biological moms aren't the only milfs. I agree that even women who haven't raised children can be milfs. What I think when I hear 'milf' is 'someone who isn't a teenager, and who has a 'girl-next-door-ness' as opposed to a barbie doll/porn star body and persona.

    I have teenage children. Teenagers aren't sexy when you have to live with them. I have known strippers and models, and just didn't have enough in common with them, even if they were lovely people.

    I think women who have understood the shameful desperation of getting to a dance rehearsal on time are hot. I think women who have wondered if the teacher would be into a threesome are hot. I think women who send the children off to play so they can talk about blowjobs are hot. It's about attitude and where she is in life, not maternity.

    In related taxonomy, I think a 'cougar' is a fantastic woman, over 40, who wants sex from younger men. Never mind that those lads are rarely reluctant, the ladies still have to go for what they want. It's the way they prowl that gives them the name.

    As I said when I started this thread, when I was young the fascination revolved mostly around moms being demonstrably sexual beings. Now, I'm in an incredibly loving but open marriage, and I get to view anyone who catches my fancy as a potential lover. It just so happens that most of the people I meet have kids and mortgages and moments of quiet desperation, like me.

    NN
     
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    I am early 40s, school aged kids,etc. I'm not sure if I'm a "MILF", but I do KNOW that I'm more sexual now than I have ever been. By no means am I calling myself "sexy", but definitely sexual.
    I think even most intelligent, evolved humans are initially attracted to others primarily because of looks. But, the ones who really get in your head?? They tend to be people who are more--the whole package. Mothers, good mothers anyway, prove on a daily basis that they can handle a variety of tasks/roles AND have the capacity to put the needs of others above their own. To me anyway, That is sexy.