I sometimes make some massage or fondling moves too soon for my Lady Partner. Sometimes some things can be done sooner on some days and need to be done later on other days or sifferent situations. Arousal stage 0, not realy interrested. Accepts; Back and Neck Massage. Might Tolerate, My beating off a little Likely to reject: Insertion So I am just conceptulizing these ideas, so I will post more later. Ideas?