Sex, babies and the future of the west

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  1. Good Medicine

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    Sex, Babies and the future of the West


    I have always liked time lapsed photography because it shows us changes over a long period of time
    that we could not other wise see because some things tend to change slowly. Demographic statics shows us what will happen if things continue to stay the same over the next fifty years and what these
    demographic statics show us is that Countries in Europe, The United States (mostly white and black) and Japan are a dwindling population because women are not having as many children as they did in past
    generations.


    Now there are many reasons for this; birth control, more women in the work force, economic pressure,
    abortion, and in a modern industrial society it is too expensive to have too many children (not reasonable
    to do so), the push by some political ideologies to have less children and many other reasons and not
    that all of them are bad in themselves but never the less are factors in the downward pressure on birth
    rates.


    If each family has two children then population growth is zero and in places like Europe where birth rate
    is about 1.58 and a population needs a birth rate of 2.1 just to sustain itself, native Europeans are clearly
    in decline population wise according to the simple math.


    So if we use some mental time lapse photography we can see that in two generations in Europe
    (maybe beyond our life time) the birth rate of native Europeans will decline while the populations
    of immigrants (a rate of 3.8%) will equal that of Europeans and in two or three generations from now;
    if things stay the same then native Europeans will be a minority. What does that mean for Europe?


    The same goes for the United States when it comes to the now majority white (72%) populations will
    be a minority by 2050 or 2060 if birth rates stay the same but with immigration the US will continue
    to be a growth country.


    In Russia where there is not a flood of immigrates the population is projected to drop from 149 million to
    about 80 million by 2050 or a drop by almost half which means it’s present status of a super power may
    be in jeopardy as it will cease to have an industrial base and be unable to keep it’s network of control
    over states that want to break away.


    Japan may be facing the biggest crisis because if our mental time lapse pictures continue to stay the
    same then in about 500 years there may be no more Japanese. Shocking but true if the Stats stay the
    same. Japan is not bringing in immigrates so it is solving the problem by exporting it’s industry to other
    parts of the world and will depend on the stability of countries like China and the US. Can they count on
    stability of these countries over hundreds of years? I doubt it. If you look at Japan now, it is starting to
    use more robots to do work as the population grows and import workers from South East Asia to care for
    it’s growing elderly population.




    If one person or one family does not have many children there is no issue for society as a whole but if
    millions of women and men do not have many children then the there is a sizable demographic shift, like
    it or not. That is what is happening right now in the West and Japan and it is what is called
    social coordination. For example, if the majority wants to be selfish and withdraw their money from
    the stock market at the same time the economy will sink and in the case of birth rates in the
    West this is what is happening.


    The bitter pill for Canada (population of 30 million) in a Continent of over 500 million and a population
    that is not growing is that it may not play a significant role in world affairs. It will depend on bigger
    countries like the US and China for economic growth. Countries like India and China with populations
    of over 1 Billion can not be ignored. They have been having more sex for procreation unlike the West.


    Sex for procreation or sex for recreation? Well... Humans do both but different cultures and societies
    have different emphasis on how much one should. In a country like Turkey it is not uncommon for a
    stranger to pick up a baby and lift them up to the sky and say ‘Thank God.’ We can not say the same
    thing happens in the West or Japan. In other words, the culture (and religion) promote procreation
    while the West promotes much more restraint on procreation. What is interesting about all of this is
    that much of the future depends on what happens in the bed room and certainly Japan and Russia
    will see the effects soon. Sex for recreation or for procreation? I think if you ask most Western
    women (including Japan and Russia) they will have a litany of reasons why they are not having
    more children and weather those reason are good or bad there are clearly consequences for the West.


    The simple arthritic tells us a lot. Does the West (including Japan and Russia) have a pathological drive
    to destroy themselves (even inadvertently) with new social norms? Mostly recreational sex and little sex
    for procreation?


    Never the less, populations world wide are falling and falling much greater for some than for others.
    What does it all mean? What do you think?
     
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    I would like to see the human race voluntarily become extinct, so that better forms of life may evolve on this planet.
     
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    GM, correction populations in some ethnicities is falling worldwide but the total still multiply at unstastainably rapid rate.
    Something will happen to correct this imbalance of nature and since we are the top species it will be self inflicted.
    I don't wish to be around to see and experience those events.
     
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    Economist Thomas Malthus (1798) thought that population would rise much faster than our ability to produce food and this would cause the population to peak and then decline due to a crisis (food shortage- starvation) but he was wrong, agriculture production kept pace with population due to technological innovation.

    No tree ever grows to the sky. Why? The mathematical truth is that everything only gets so big as the Bell curve in mathematics shows. So population will peak and then drop. There are many reasons populations will start to decline - maybe some good, some bad but nothing to worry about.

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    No something very much to worry about, it won't be a gentle, soft decline but dramatic probably wars over water resources or some other necessary commodity for survival.
    Mathematics do not take into consideration the greed, excess and engenuity of human kind to kill one another unless seen from the perspective of thousands of years into the future.
    The leeming factor will rule.
     
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