porn concern

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  1. boobjob

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    I enjoy watching vids on the internet but I am against prostitution. My problem with prostitution is that I believe that given a real choice, women would not willingly have sex with anyone just because they were able to pay. I don't think that prostitution constitutes consent. So I wonder how am I able to know that the women in a porn vid aren't in a similar situation of working in an industry that does not allow them freedom to choose who they "work" with. I generally favor "homemade" and "amateur" vids but can I really trust that those aren't just the same thing. I( guess I'm feeling a little guilty and hypocritical. Any thoughts?
     
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    dunno. I think that women in the industry have the ability to not work with someone, just like some don't do anal or guys only.

    As for prostitution, couple guys I work with have a handful they they frequent. They say that all of them had a level of standards they required from the "john". Was told one only works one week out of a month, but charges 300/hr. Now these are the upper end of the scale independents, not the corner drive by and pickup kind.

    Corner workers, those (from what I have seen on HBO specials) tend to be the ones doing anything and everything to get by or get a fix of some kind.

    I prefer amateur videos myself as well, but its pretty easy to spot one that is true amateur and one that has production to it. Always look sideways at any "amateur" video with anywhere close to good camera work. Better the camera work, the more I lean to paid pro's.
     
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    Prostitution is the oldest profession in the world. It exists in most cultures, has since the dawn of time. So how about women that enter marriages just for a cushy place to live? isn't that prostitution? Porn stars are getting paid for sex...it's just taped. There are plenty of women who get volunterily get into prostitiution. Some are forced but many make the choice on their own, look at the Bunny Ranch. As long as men will pay for it, there will be prostitutes.
     
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    Very well said :tup. I think on a broader scope, wherever there is a demand for anything, there will be a supply.
     
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    Im not sure I understand. Are you guys saying that prostitution is OK in all circumstances?

    Maybe I should state my question this way. Where is the line to be drawn in the sex industry? At one extreme there is forced prostitution, ie. sex slaves. I am pretty sure we can all agree that that is wrong. At the other end of the sex industry is stuff like KY Jelly. Nothing wrong with that right? Somewhere in between there is a line between right and wrong. Where is it? I guess there are a handful of people out there (not on this site) who would say selling condoms is wrong. What about sex toys? I'm fine with all of that. In some societies Pictures of women in bikinis is over the line but our culture is fine with that. Nude photos on the other hand are questioned by our society. Our courts can't define obscenity but it doesn't stop the courts from prosecuting it.

    I guess I'm thinking a little about the situation on Long Island where a missing prostitute led to the discovery that a serial killer was dumping prostitutes dead bodies in a deserted stretch of marsh along the beach. I doubt any of those girls grew up saying "gee I really want to be a prostitute when I grow up."

    so I wonder in the same way, how many women in porn vids given a choice would be fucking for porn tapes. If they are not doing it as a choice of free will then isn't this a failure of our society? Even if it isn't society's responsibility to protect them, I feel that I am contributing to their suppression by participating. So I'm trying to rationalize my pleasure by drawing a line where its acceptable. I guess you guys figure it's all acceptable. I wonder if there are other opinions.
     
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    The issue is of course one of freedom and the circumstances of how the women enter the industry both porn and prostitution. As a lawyer I am aware of a number of situation in which economic abuse occurs in both industries. The real issues are those surrounding the ability of choice and the ability to leave. I have met prostitutes who have been happy to be in the industry and those that have been abused where I see it as a form of sexual assualt by their employer.
    As my old professor in contact law said the only freedom the buyer has it to say no, particularly if the seller has something you want.
     
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    If the free will to walk away or say no is removed then that falls into the slave column.

    Toys are not a big deal to some, but in some states like Alabama you can't even own them. Same for prostitution, ok in Nevada long as the papers are in order.

    Would I use a prostitute.. dunno, never really got to a point where spending the same amount of money across a couple dates didn't get the same result.

    Have been to many strip clubs. Granted they are not having sex, but to some they are just as bad as the prostitutes.

    I think everyone (thats not forced into slavery) has a choice in their actions.
     
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    Unless the woman is litterally held hostage and forced to perform sex acts, it's fine. Many women are not forced and still do it, some see it as easy money, despite the dangers. And there's plenty of prostitution that goes on in strip clubs.

    Would I ever pay for sex? HELL no. Why pay for what you can get free. Granted I'm in a good marriage, but my friends that aren't have no problem getting it, and I get hit on all of the time. If I lowered my standards, I could get laid in the next 5 min.... My wife has spoiled me, 46 and a rock hard body...I don't like the fluff.
     
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    If you're concerned about the standards of the porn you want to watch I'd suggest you check the production company of a porno. If it got a good reputation and good standards (i'd also add high production value but I'm not sure) I would imagine they operate in a good fashion where the actors and crew and so on have good working conditions. ie, no forced sex, no forced type of sex the actors doesnt want to do and so on.

    I watch a lot of porn and the vast majority of it are from well known productions companies and have recognizable actors who do the work by their own choosing.
     
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    I have had sex with prostitutes and also known prostitutes personally, not as a client. All of the women I knew had a real choice and chose what they did for a number of reasons. First, the money is exceptional, second is the job is much more interesting than being a wage slave, especially for women who like meeting people, third is they generally like sex and sometimes get very good sex. Some clients would be arseholes or lousy lovers, but many are kind and sweet (you're paying a woman to have a good time with her).

    In Australia we do have Asian women recruited to work in the industry, and they pay a lot for their visa and to get here, and they work off their debt through working in brothels. Is this sex slavery? No, they know full well what the deal is when they sign up, and they make more money in Australia after the debt than what they would make in the sex industry in their homelands. The scarlet alliance see it this way as well.

    Prostitution is interesting in that women willingly having sex with several strangers a day, and are surprisingly normal outside work. It's also interesting in that even concepts such as sex slavery are not black and white, but rather shades of grey.