May require condoms in porn in CA

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  1. igor

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    There are a lot of STDs in porn, even if they normally manage to control HIV/AIDS, so I can see where this is coming from.

    I still think it is strange that they allow porn being made in that state and many other regions and countries, while "normal" prostitution is illegal. Freedom of speech or not, the porn producers are paying people to have sex.
     
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    Trond, I may be completely wrong but, because there is no scientific, educational or artistic value to porn, doesn't that mean it's not protected under the first amendment?

    Either way, for entertainment's sake, the condom might make it less sexy for me
     
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    I don't know much about the US legal system to be honest (I also live in Canada), but I do have an opinion about the porn/art controversy:

    It's really simple actually; there is no reason why art should be good quality to be viewed as art. Art is basically any human product that seeks to elicit an emotional response in others. There is probably some fuzziness around the edges of the definition, but I think this is what most art critics and art historians agree on. Porn certainly qualifies, even if lots of people may think it is garbage (I personally think most of it is garbage, but not all).

    Some people try to figure out where the line between art and pornography runs, but I would argue that there isn't any line. For example, some pornography deliberately tries for a more "artistic" approach (whatever that is), and some of art history's most celebrated paintings were actually meant to make people horny. Examples:

    http://www.artchive.com/artchive/t/titian/titian_venus_of_urbino.jpg

    http://www.webetc.info/art/Art-Folders/Spain/goya/goya-maja.JPG
     
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    Well you could argue that porn is artistic by the sum of it's parts; It has writing, and while it may not win a Pulitzer prize, it still has a script, and writing is considered an artform. It also has cinematography. Something bizarre I've noticed with big porn sites is themes and tones, so yes, I think it could be argued that porn is art on that front.

    Just not art you'd be proud to analyze and such =P.
     
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    I don't believe that freedom of speech allows you to endanger workers. I'm sure printing places have to be safe too.

    I think realistic porn that shows people using condoms, gloves, dental dams, and so on in ways that are sexy and creative would be interesting. I'd like to see that.
     
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    I have never actually used a dental dam. Any experience with this? (sorry for the slight derailment:))
     
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    I haven't either, but I'm very curious about them. That's one of the reasons I'd like to see them in videos.
     
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    Well, the good news for those who don't like the idea of dental dams is that some of the nastiest STDs, HIV included, are much less likely to be transmitted through oral sex. It seems that some of the enzymes in your mouth actually kill the virus. However, HIV can still pass through small sores, or if your gums are bleeding etc, so it's not perfectly safe.
     
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    Well, I'm sure a lot of people will just go "Oh look at Cali being stupid again" and then again maybe not. But I see it as a good idea really. Despite lots of STD/STI testing the people doing the deeds in porn do contract them many times. Though most are curable types, it's still an STD/STI. Wonder if they'll try to put a stop on stuff like anal to vaginal and ass to mouth and such. I'm sure folks like that IRL, but it's clearly a hazardous activity.
     
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    I agree. And this one of the few times I also think "what about the children?" in such situations. I have heard kids saying some mighty stupid stuff about anal sex and the like.
     
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    Well, in "thinking of the children" I think that's on the side of the parents doing a better job of parenting. They should be there to teach their kids that what happens in porno is dangerous and mostly fantasy, and that a lot of it is risky behavior. The govt. is not the parent, and I detest laws made to do the parenting, as it encroaches on other rights and freedoms.
     
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    While there would be capital investment made by the porn industry in California, I can see more porn being made in other states of the US without such a restriction. Beyond looking less sexy, there would be more technical difficulties, and what looks like a seamless sex act on the final product is actually an edit of many, many takes. Condoms off, condoms on, loses erection, condom off, condom on etc etc.
     
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    if some chick came at me with rubber gloves on and a dental dam...id be scared condoms save lives
     
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    Porn already contains plenty of that. The males already know how to keep erections, and have fluffers, multiple takes are common. Not much would really change actually.