Learning from porn stars

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  1. shnarkle

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    What concerns do you have that the youth of today are learning their sexual techniques from porn stars, with all the mysogeny (you slut), bang, bang bang crude jackhammer thrusting and an anal fixation, to name but three that it extolls?
     
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    Pornography is a male fantasy of sex. In my opinion it only reflects already existing male ideas about sex, it doesn't create them.

    You must learn sex and that will always be the same. So if youths find out that sex isn't really like they think it is, then where is the great change? Wasn't it the same for everyone? I think crude and brutish sex by men who see women as nothing but a hole existed long before the internet but perhaps older members will know better!

    I studied history and there is lots of pottery and ceramics that is thousands of years old with men having anal sex with women painted on them (and everything else you can imagine!). It isn't something new and today very few people have kitchenware with depictions of anal sex on it so perhaps we are less obssessed!

    Misogyny is a rising problem but I blame marketing and the media more than pornography.
     
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    I fully understand your points, however, when I was a teenager you learned about sex by an innate sense of what to do, or by trial and error, or by listening to the gossip and boasts of your peers. We didn't have access to sex movies of any kind.

    My concern is that with the ease of access to internet porn, with all its unhealthy practices and ideals, young people who are just starting out on their sexual journey will view these attitudes as the norm, and use the practices as a template for how to approach sex.
     
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    I studied anthropological psychology and in past ages anal sex was practiced as a way of birth control. Pottery depicting anal sex would most likely be of normal, married couples limiting family size. Back then (and not so far ago like well into the nineteenth century and in some countries today), anal sex man to woman was very common for birthcontrol. It's actually an expression of love to limit the number of shared offspring.

    This is a different perspective to the gonzo porn of today, which unfortunately does depict women as holes to be filled, giving that expectation to both young men and young women. There's always a blow job but not so often the more important going down until a woman comes. Like the OP I have problems with this.
     
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    Having a young child myself I worry about the images and actions he's bound to come across in today's media driven world a great bit, but there's not much I can do but try to be open and honest and set an example for him how to treat himself and others.

    As an adult in a long and healthy marriage my wife and I have been able to separate the bed room and "the rest of the world". We are into some things sexually that might put others off. Being rough, dirty talking, bondage, kinky games, & other silliness. Do I treat her like a "hole" in our bedroom? You damned right I do and she loves it. Do I treat her like that in public or private in non sexual recourse? You damned right I don't.

    She gets my love, respect, trust, etc. etc. We are partners on equal footing except in the bedroom, but we like it that way, agreed for it to be that way, and frankly it keeps us sane.

    However, I think many adults have trouble separating things like this much less teenagers full of hormones.
     
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    Yeah tbh media and pop-singing drove me to porn just as my hormons kicked in (I didn't stand a chance XD)
    I'm 25 now and my circle of friends still find it amazing I've been able to refuse sex for as long as I have despite being a porn addict for years (saving for marriage). At the same time, if I want a serious, settled down relationship it is close to impossible to find any women my age who are also virgins. So like most people have said, I don't blame porn as much as I do pop-culture, which I think is fuled by men who like to see it and women who like the attention when copying it (without realizing what it is they are doing and what kind of signal it is sending to guys). My personal opinions.
     
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    i know the hollywood films are not porn but just curious what about the sex scene in Oldboy?
    i know they did not show sperm but she was on his lap so do you think they might have 'done it' anyway?
     
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    No, it's not commonplace to actually have sex when filming movies.

    Also please stop calling it sperm. It's cum, ejaculate, semen or if you want to get technical, seminal fluid. Sperm can't be seen unless under a microscope.
     
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    but some of them probably did?
    at work i have felt guys shake under my bum and come:}
    sperm(s) sounds more scientific but ok.
     
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    Just because it sounds scientific doesn't mean it's correct.

    So you are saying that you lap dancing is the same as a Hollywood sex scene in a movie?
     
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    Are you a dancer or are you a hooker? There's no logical reason you should be feeling guys orgasm under you unless of course you're doing things you shouldn't on the job. Despite your little smile emote to making people want to think you're being cute, it's not.
    If you are (doing things you shouldn't), in that case you're being paid to get them off, if so that makes you a prostitute.

    Also, it's not sperm or as you said "sperm(s)" That's not even proper grammar. As H4H said, just because it "sounds scientific" doesn't make it the least bit correct.
     
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    Mittimer & H4H please note.
     
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    Maybe we can call it "Kasparaitis". That sounds scientific.
     
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    Totally disagree.
    Women are getting more and more rights in the work place.
    There is more understanding as to their emotional needs by men in the workplace and home.
    If there is a problem it is from the Raging Feminists that have taken things too far the other way.
     
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    "Extras" can be had in most SC's in the US . . . ijs
     
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    i agree it might not be correct word use.
    the movie i mention in my first post was Oldboy and in that the actress is nude on the naked actors lap and if you pause it you can see his naked lap under her bum, so its like lapdancing:}

    i'm lapdancer but that thing only happens when they have loose pants and a big erection that loses control under my bum, and my boss said its ok. i never touched a guy with my hands its ok:} i only use the ":}" symbol because a smile with my tongue out.
    thats ok i don't have to say sperm but when a man at work said 'what do you like to do for fun' and i was like 'sperm on my bum' lol
     
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    Don't take way any learning from Ron Jeremy, fellow gents.

    There's a reason why they used to call him The Hedgehog.

    I'm not talking about regular chest hair, either.

    Makes Bigfoot look like Mr. Clean.

    Beth, take notes.

    This is good stuff.
     
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    If we reconfigure the flux capacitor so that the quantum dilation matches frequency with the Heisenberg particulates resonating within the surrounding atmosphere...

    That sounds scientific, too - but it's equally bullshit.
     
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    That is far from true, considering nobody has sex like porn stars in real life, and if they do... well they are really bad at sex LoL. Directed towards a male audience, yes, but targeting their actual desires about sex? Not really.

    It is not a reflection on anything real. Porn actors and actresses are acting, and it is all filmed for an audience, which means the positions and everything they do is all directed and artificial, there is nothing natural about it.

    Typical pornography screenplay:

    Scene 1. Woman strips down for the camera.
    Scene 2. Man wiggles his tongue at her clitoris for only 2 seconds
    Scene 3. Woman sucks his dick for 2 hours
    Scene 4. Man "attempts" to fuck her pussy with his giant monster cock but has to stop every two seconds because he has terrible sexual endurance, like Mandingo, meanwhile the camera hardly ever films the actual sex, it just pans out (hey, look at that awesome floor rug or that dog over there) or it zooms into an incredibly close up shot of her face for the whole time. Sex lasts for maybe a couple minutes of terrible filming and terrible camera angles because for some reason the camera man seems to think everyone is watching porn to look at face portraits and random things around the room instead of actual sex. OR the CLASSIC 5 SECOND RULE that professional pornography filmers follow, zoom into her face for 5 seconds, zoom down to a close up of penetration for 5 seconds, zoom out for a long distant shot for 5 seconds, back to her face and repeat all for 5 seconds - really annoying, I don't know how anyone gets off when the camera is never focused on anything for too long.
    Scene 5. They stop for more annoying BJ's because the man has 0 sexual endurance.
    Scene 6. Woman bends over and now it's time for anal, finally we get a few better view of penetration but what the fuck ever happened to vaginal sex? Anal lasts for the rest of the video, then we see long scenes of nothing but her face. And of course he cums on her face. Where else? Because of course porn lacks imagination and no one in porn likes creampies anymore.

    This is exactly what all porn is like. It's getting impossible to find good vaginal sex filmed these days. I have watched over thousands of videos on pornhub but I've only found a hundred that I like. Most porn is badly filmed, or the actors are just terrible at sex. Amateur porn isn't any better.

    I will never agree that the majority of men actually enjoy having sex like that because they really don't. And neither do I.
     
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