how one is affectionate and the life of the relationship regarding making love. Here is the deal. I am 53, she is 47. Been together for over six years. Early on she was part of the reason I got a vasectomy, but yet it was time anyway and I was ready. Both of my brothers younger than me had it done years before me. I have saved money on condemns. But then again a 12 pack of them would have last for a year before separating. Yep once a month. Sex has a part of our life as much of anything. Even our religious beliefs and the background we have shared that part. Our lives paralleled one another on my levels. In the last year, she is dealing with, the Bible and sex with out marriage thing. For me, I don't believe that it is a sin. Not sure I take the words of Paul for much. But then that is me. Here is where I am at with this. If you take what is being said by the faithful and the words they share. Not just sex is off limits, just about anything else is off. So I made the comment. If we ban sex, then we ban holding hands, kissing or anything that leads up to what brings on sex, cause that is what is being said by those that want to ban sex without being married. Her comment was well do we have to that. I said yes if you want to ban sex then we ban all that leads to it. thoughts?