Future cars

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  1. ninja08hippie

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    Barbwire's post about getting a new truck was interesting, and made me wonder about my next car. She has a big trailer and lives out in the country, but for the rest of us, we don't need big trucks, we want sexy sleek little cars.

    There is something awesome about the sleek modern look and the sexy electric hum as oppose to that obnoxious gas engine sound.

    I was planning for my next car to be either a Leaf or a Volt, but then I saw this: Lit Motors ? The C-1 It's even sexier, but still in development. I just hope that my current car lasts long enough for this to be rolled out in full production.

    I just wonder how the roads of the future will work with most city and suburb people's cars getting smaller and smaller, but big rigs, work trucks, soccer-mom-cars, and hillbilly-mobiles keep getting bigger and bigger. :/ We need to start building smart-car only lanes.


    I soooooo want a C-1 though :D
     
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    I'm really liking my little rental car that I'm using while my car is in the shop. I've had it over three weeks, and the other driver's insurance is paying for it (car accident). It's easier to drive with just my left knee, which I have now managed to do at 78 mph during the day on a freeway.
     
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    I'd like a Honda Clarity CFX. Hydrogen is an inexhaustable source of fuel, only emissions is water. Wish they'd expand beyond California.
     
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    My wife and I have both switched to hybrids, her the insight, me the civic. Good priced cars, and we both average about 44mpgs. We are thinking about the new Accord when it comes out. Its more of a true hybrid, as it will run on the battery alone, much like the Volt.

    We looked at the Prius for her to start, but the Hondas beat them in price by about ten grand with only a few mpgs lost. Plus we are Honda people.

    My preference for my next new car would be an accord v6 coupe with the six speed. I had a 2010 and with just a few minor mods i was pushing 325 hp at the wheels, but gas mileage beat out the speed
     
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    I love my 79 malibu big block no mufflers,heat,radio,ac,carpet...or hood at the moment lol
     
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    I have a 66 impala gearhead. Got a built 350, 400 turbo for when i want to show my ass. Big car, bit funny as hell when i can take a new 5.0 or camaro from a stoplight. Too bad the race fuel i need for it is about six bucks a gallon here, and she sputters on 93. Did have a 72 nova, but swapped the motor and trans to the impala a few years ago.
     
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    Thats a whole lot of compression,my 12:1 355 ran on 93 pretty well. I do want a new copo camaro though with a blown 5.3 too bad there's no vin
     
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    How long can the tank be left before it leaks empty? Hydrogen atoms are so small that they leak through everything. Even NASA hasn't figured out how to store hydrogen without it leaking.
     
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    ^ didnt know that

    Honda Insights still get the most at 70+ mpg but are hard to find. A guy I work with has like an 06 Prius with 220,000 mi on it and has never done the brakes even once. He resurfaced the rotors but pads are original.

    I just dont think they have perfected an all electric car yet. Ive never been in an Volt but I hear they are nice. Of course the Tesla roadster was a huge leap in high performance pure electric but it had too many problems. New concepts are all too impracticle or way too ugly as fuck, The new Nissan TeRRa looks horrific. In the next 10 years I think there will be alot more reliable hybrids or all electric cars that look like real cars.
     
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    Yep, thats why I don't see hydrogen as a practical source of fuel. Most people think that they fuel the shuttle only a few hours before for safety reasons, when it's actually because if they fueled it a few days before, it would leak so much, that it would have lost a large portion on its fuel, and I would bet, there would be enough of it lingering around to cause a massive explosion.

    Electric is new technology, it'll take a while to get their. Japan is putting a lot of funding into research, Obama has put some money into it too, but the good ole GOP calls that socialism, so they have to do the research on their own dime or just copy the Japanese, which is what they are currently doing :p
     
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    I own two cars. My daily drive is a decently modified 2006 Nissan Sentra SE-R Spec V with a bunch of bolt on race parts and I average 22mpg to 25mpg mixed between city driving and a quick dash on the highway each way to work 5 days a week.

    My second car is a 1996 camaro Z/28 that I strictly drag race since it's a heavily modified car that lays 667 HP to the rear wheels thanks to a twin screw super charger set up. That car gets 2 MPG on a 20 gallon fuel cell on premium for the occasional car cruises/shows I take it to and I get about 1 MPG on alcohol fuel at the strip.

    So I'm not really into the whole electric/hybrid cars. Too slow for me and I don't like the way any of them look...no curves or personality IMO.

    Speaking of future cars...what about the new Corvette that is coming out? I read that there are rumors of making a model with a 4 cylinder engine with a turbo on it. I don't like the sound of it because when I hear "Corvette" I think of a sexy American icon with a high output HP V8 under the hood. So far I'm also not liking the renderings I've seen of the new Vette and think it needs more work to look like a Vette.
     
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    One reason the current car is more expensive than most, but they get about 500 miles to a tank. Honda has the leakage problem down to a minimum. Honda dosn't do anything without testing out the ass.

    And I had a 70 Impala, LT1 350 bored and stroked to a 390...dynoed 491hp at the rear wheels....6mpg....and I won't talk about reliablity.

    And diehard, I'd love to drive a hybrid, but I have two kids that play ice hockey, goal no less, and it takes a minivan to fit all of the equipment and overnight bags, and of course it's a Honda. I can't use a hybrid for my contracting business and yes though I live my Titan, it's a bit thirsy, my wife has a Rogue, big enough to hold one hockey bag and overnight bag when the kids are on separate teams but still gets about 30mpg.
     
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    It doesn't surprise me that a lot of guys in here drive muscle cars. That's what was cool when you were growing up. I watched Grease, I love Springsteen and The Beach Boys. Powerful cars were a status symbol, but the next coming generation sees it differently. The next generation sees sleek and high tech as cool, you could argue that we owe that to Steve Jobs. Lots of people are calling the cool new little cars as smartphones on wheels. Muscle cars just aren't cool anymore among people under 30, but thats very new, even when I was a kid, a big loud engine was cool. I think the 60s classics have been godfathered in though, I still consider them cool (not sure about kids :/), but usually when I see someone driving a new mustang, I just think of what they are compensating for ;) :p It is sort of weird though, if you had asked me what kinda car I would want when I was 16, I would have said a mustang or a corvette, but as a 16 year old now, they'd say a Prius o_O

    Also, I'm curious, how do the old gas muscle cars compare to the modern electric muscle cars? From a purely physics standpoint, electric should be able to put out much more horsepower if the designers wanted them to. The electric Zeo does 0-60 in about 5 seconds, what does a gas Viper do?
     
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    I never saw Grease, never heard or got into Springsteen, only like one song by the Beach boys and I bought my Camaro z/28 when I was 16. I'm 27 and I was about to buy another Camaro, a 2012 SS or I was looking at the 2012 Mustang Cobra or RTR before buying a house :ugh. I'm 27 and American muscle cars are more appealing to me than these small high tech gizmo cars. I want a car with power, flair, and fun factor to it. I test drove a Nissan Juke, a Honda Fit, and a Hyundai Genesis when my S/O was looking for a more eco/gas friendly car we can both drive. Problem is all these cars good on gas and loaded with little tech gadgets/features can't comfortably fit a guy like me who is 6'-5" 317 lbs. We settled on a Chevy Equinox that has a 4 cylinder in it and has an eco mode that still manages to get low 20's mpg city and high 20's mpg highway and I can fit in it and we have so much room to haul stuff and tow things as well. Even the muscle cars are more comfortable and accommodating to a guy my size. Forget a smart car...that be like asking me to fold myself up into a shoe box :p
     
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    Purely electric hot rods,yes there out there are very fast because you get all the torque right away gas engines have so many moving parts there's a power band. Not with ev cars though its a flat power band
     
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    The reason I like old muscle cars is i grew up around a drag strip, and thats what was there. And honestly, new cars can make more power etc but it costs so damn much to do it. The 350 I have now, makes 512 hp and 553 ft lbs of torque. Total cost of the motor is about two grand, starting from scratch.

    My Accord, which would run like a scalded dog, was a 30,000 dollar car to start with, 600 for the diablo tuner with a program to go with the cold air intake that was 250, and borla catback exhaust that ran another six hundred. ( Didn't want that chainsaw sound v6 exhaust noise, only really opened up at wot). And I had the v6 which pushed like 272 horses stock. The money required to build up a four banger is crazy! Plus, its not as much fun working on a laptop compared to working a wrench.

    The old cars are just more fun in a lotta ways, I can go stall the impala up to 3000 and spin 14 yellow lines. If I tear something up, its cheap and easy to fix.

    My accord, if I tore something up with it. I was screwed, have you looked under the hood of the new cars?

    All that said, my daily driver is a 2012 civic hybrid, not really manly but who cares. And the teenage boys on the teams I coach all either want trucks or a muscle car. None wants a gas sipper.
     
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    Yea its all covered in plastic :lol :lol. I stripped all of that off my Spec V so you can see the engine and admire the tweaks and cosmetic things I've done to it.

    My Z/28...well you just unpin the 6" cowl hood, remove it, and admire a bored out super charged Chevy LT1 SB 350...makes me proud to be an American just to look at that.
     
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    We're in NC right now, from being here half a week, I can see the whole truck thing. Like the area, the people are a bit scary though. My son as well as his team mates could care less about how fast their cars are, many of them don't even have their licenses a year after turning 16. As long as my son's car starts and runs (Accord so no problem there) he's good. He'd rather spend $2000 on his leg pads and $250 for a stick or $3500 on a top shelf computer. He's far more worried about getting into MIT than having a fast car, after MIT he want's to get a GTR, at the least a Lotus. So far he's on track with straight As in all honors and AP courses. What's with all the NASCAR crap around here, bunch of rednecks driving around in circles for 3 hrs.

    And SR, you seem to be forgetting the GTR. As Top Gear put it, corners faster than electicity.
     
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    What part are you in? If its near the beach, yeah outside the city limits the people can get a little scary. As far as Nascar, no clue, never got it. I do enjoy drag racing, but its not something I can watch on tv, nor really pick out favorites like they do with the Nascar drivers.
     
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    Nascar used to be about technological superiority, now there are rules that they all have to use 50 year old technology. It's part of the reason that the auto industry in the USA stalled and Japan and Europe is now leading the way with automative innovations and Detroit just plays catch-up.