Forced Orgasm

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  1. Kanto

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    Its certainly a popular subject in erotic fiction, the "forced orgasm". But I have to wonder, is this even really possible? Is it possible to arouse a woman against her will to the point of climax?

    Arousal seems possible. Its partly a physiological response and partly mental (or is it, ladies?). I suppose there are a whole slew of factors; the other individual involved, the woman's state of mind, the atmosphere.

    Or is it really just the fanciful fantasy of a few feckless fiction fabricators?
     
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    It would not be possible for me, that's for certain. And rape is a very serious issue. I think I can safely say that it is a VERY scary experience, which is exactly what a 'forced orgasm' is, unless I'm misinterpreting what you're saying. People who go through rapes often suffer psychological trauma, and are harmed physically by the act. I think it is safe to say that that is a myth. I've never met a woman who liked to be forced into doing anything, much less having sex.
     
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    Well, I'm certainly not trying to make light of rape. So lets create a hypothetical situation that still allows for both consent and some measure of 'forced arousal'.

    A loving couple makes a bet. The man says to the woman, "I'll bet that I can bring you to orgasm, even if you don't really want one." The woman is dubious, but is willing to humor the man. She promises to let the man touch, fondle, kiss, penetrate, etc, all that he needs in order to bring her to orgasm (within a preset time limit), and she will accommodate him physically and only resist him mentally. To add incentive to the bet, they wager an unpopular chore, an outing, or an activity of the winners choice.

    Could the woman reach orgasm this way?
     
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    One could argue that in that situation, the chick wouldn't bet unless she were open to the idea of having an orgasm in the first place. It isn't really forced, that way...I guess that's just the way I see it.
     
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    That's exactly what happens in Frank Zappa's Dynamo Hum, except they weren't a loving couple, just a bar bet. Dynamo bet him a forty dollar bill that he couldn't make her cum.
     
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    i would have to say yes a woman could...from experiance that is...theres been many times where i just wasnt in the mood and he worked at it till i had an orgasm.... i wouldnt say it was a forced upon thing...but sometimes when the libido is lacking it just needs a little push into the right direction.
     
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    I guess it all depends on how you mean "forced",just like bsxy said.I don't believe you can have one when someone is forcing themself on you,yet,if you are just not in the mood and you get that push in the right direction,you would.
     
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    If I don't want to, I won't.
    I do cum in my sleep very often though.
     
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    I don't believe that forced orgasms are possible, and that it is unlikely that a woman would have an orgasm against her will. In terms of post three in this thread, I have seen sex workers a few times in my life. I know that some of the ladies I have been with had orgasms with me, because I felt their orgasmic contractions or they ejaculated or were extremely sensitive after coming. I don't think the sex workers were expecting or even wanting to orgasm with a client, but if the man is okay (they would call me a nice client) and if he knows what he is doing, well...

    If they disliked me as a client, I would say their chances of reaching orgasm with me were zero.

    So orgasms can come in strange circumstances and when not expected, but with women I believe that there has to be a some sort of connection with her partner for an orgasm to happen.
     
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    Mmmm, wet dreams, eh? Now that I'd like to see...Loveit humping the air while asleep. :dgrin
     
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    Hey, if you want to believe they came, then go ahead, but already it's easy for a woman to fake an orgasm, contractions, "ejaculation" and all.

    And your first statement is poop. Women that are being raped sometimes orgasm and I'm pretty sure there is no "connection" there. It's a reaction to physical stimulation, not the result of erotic excitement.
     
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    CL, he just wanted to drop in, once again, what a wonderful lover he is. I am suprised he didn't mention his MASSIVE penis again.
     
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    LOL, guys. Yeah, you can fake orgasms, ejaculation, and contractions.
     
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    Exactly. It can happen in a forced situation.

    Also, some women may be predisposed subconsciously to that type of situation, even if they don't consciously realize it or want to be.

    I doubt it happens for most women, but it certainly does for some.
     
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    Whoa, whoa, whoa...that is the classic rapist's defense: But she really wanted it. This is how the sickos justify their pathologically violent behavior and it scares me a little to see any guy echo that demented sentiment to any extent. Let's not go down that path.

    There are a fair number of women who enjoy enacting rape fantasies, taking precautionary measures and implementing safety controls, with someone they trust, and that is a different kettle of fish entirely.

    You, too, are capable of experiencing forced orgasm. Take any self-identified 100% heterosexual guy here, forcibly restrain him and have the ugliest gay guy imaginable perform a blow job on him--there's a very good chance that despite the fact that you would give anything to be anyplace else, with anyone else, at that moment in time, despite the revulsion, physical and emotional, you would be feeling, you would become aroused and orgasm from the physical stimulation alone. That is the way the human body is designed. It has nothing to do with "subconscious predispositions".
     
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    I don't think its a defense because I think the conscious mind is what matters, not some unconscious reaction.

    It also doesn't work, because, as I said, the vast majority of women would never, ever react with an orgasm. I think there does have to be -some- mental aspect to it, for those who do, clearly a small minority, not just a physical one. And I say that because I know girls who have gotten aroused in a forced situation, even though they wish they didn't. Again, I'll stress that that is a very small minority of girls, and the ones I know who have had that happen seem to do so as a result of sexualizing some kind of past abuse.

    It is said that the most powerful sex organ is the mind for a reason.

    If I was tied up and some ugly gay was going to give me a blow job, I would not orgasm, because I wouldn't get aroused in the first place, because arousal is not just physical, its mental as well, in my opinion. I only get aroused physically when I'm aroused mentally, so it just wouldn't happen.
     
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    Wow!! The hypothetical situations are getting pretty weird in this thread...:eek

    Now would I cum if I was wrestled to the ground by a group of inbred hicks that could have had bit roles in "Deliverance", tied up, made to squeal like a pig while a bucktooth, crosseyed, slackjawed, drooling man gave me head?

    Only if "Dueling Banjos" was playing in the back ground. :dgrin

    That sweet, sweet sound of romantic twang aaaahhhhh.....
     
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    My first statment, your second statement, was just my belief. I may be wrong, although I've had a few lovers in my life and a few medium-term relationships before marriage, and I don't believe the girls I have known could ever have responded in a forced situation no matter what the stimulation being applied. But as I've never met anyone who has been raped, this is only my belief.

    As to my first statement, I know that women can fake orgasms and certainly many have faked them with me. However, the rhythmic and regular 0.8 second contractions are impossible to fake, especially in the case of the escort who had contractions that lasted almost a minute. I was was lightly touching her g-spot when she came, and felt her vaginal walls pulsing against my finger. She was one of the two escorts who ejaculated with me, it was about a cupful of liquid that was clear, odorless and quite slippery, it felt like dishwashing detergent on my fingers. Certainly not urine.

    A third escort was too sensitive to have intercourse after she came. It wasn't in her interest to climb on top of me and then pull away in discomfort, I can assure you. Until then, I didn't know if she had really come or not, although she pushed my head when I didn't stop oral on her quickly enough.

    Just because I've had sex with several escorts, and three of those escorts came with me proves nothing about me as a lover, any man who knows what he's doing could have achieved the same thing. What I find interesting is that the last thing those escorts would have expected was an orgasm with a client, a total stranger who pays money to have sex with them, and yet it happened. Which shows that the female orgasm can sometimes be an elusive thing, but sometimes it can happen when you don't expect it.
     
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    So, have you ever faked the contractions then? Cos I know for a fact that I can.
     
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    I think 99.9% of women can consciously contract their PC muscle, just as 99.9% of men can. If a woman can contract her PC muscle strong enough to cut off the flow of urine, then she can contract her PC muscle strong enough to fake the contractions of an orgasm.

    BD