A couple of days ago, the wife finally realized that our relationship had really reached an all-time low and that we needed to get the intimacy back. It has been 4 1/2 years since we had sex. I was about at the breaking point myself and I know she sensed that something had to be done. She never wanted to talk about things and I was too chicken to initialize a discussion. Anyway, we had a talk and ended up acting like teenagers in the kitchen, then retired to the bedroom. The next hour was quite exhausting/relaxing. That night, for the first time in months, i slept all through the night without waking up. The next morning I would have been ready to go again but I didn't want to push my luck. So I hope the trend continues as I believe it will. I have to say that thanks to this forum, I met (on-line, not in person) A very special, wonderful person who was also having some personal issues. We were able to comfort each other and offer moral support when things were looking down, and I hope that person received as much good from our relationship as I have, and I hope that relationship continues to be a benefit to us both. So thanks :sf for bringing us together!