First off, before you get the wrong idea about the newbie, I'm not some drink-spiking, date raping sicko. Not only would I not be attracted to an unwilling drunk, but when one has a kink like this, one must make a concerted effort to use it responsibly. O.K., enough disclaimer. I first noticed this a long, long time ago. Passing through a bar at a ski resort, I chanced on a 30ish woman sitting by the fireplace. As I approach, she looks up, and when I caught her gaze, I colud see her eyes were glazed and unfocused. It was clear that she was trying to act normal despite a heavy liquor load. I had a strong urge to kiss her, taste the burn of liquor on my tongue, and drink Bourbon with her till closing time. (As it was, I had to leave, as I was not yet 21 (to say the least)). I still remember her face and her eyes, however. As I matured, I noticed this kink periodically, and I was worried that I had an as-of-yet undiscovered sadistic streak. But as I gained sexual experience, I realized I was predominately normal except for this one kink. What I eventually realized is that, if I could, I'd like to conjure up a female form, make love to alcohol, and at climax bite her neck and suck the ice-cold Everclear from her veins. Failing that, I desire to make love to a woman while Ethyl posesses her body and soul. I pre-arrange this in much the same way as a rape fantasy, because the women I prefer are to the point where consent could be argued after the fact. (Occasionally I have logistical trouble finding certain women in a sober interlude, however). For some reason, however, most of my relationships have been with temperate drinkers, and I haven't indulged this kink as much as I'd have liked. Anyone EVER heard of this kink before? (Yes, I know lots of people like drunk gals, but that's just mostly because they believe they'll put out. This is different.) I notice that there's precious little porn of this nature, which leads me to believe it's less popular than midget porn, which blows my mind. What porn is out there I don't indulge in, for two reasons: first, about 90% of it is annoying, gigglingly tipsy "poseur-drunks." Second, the 10% that would interest me is ethically iffy, as I suspect that the majority of these gals didn't make the decision sober, but were basically taken advantage of. This kind of kink tends to lend itself to short-term relationships, both because of associated drama, and because such women invariably have a complicated relationship with booze, and I'm worried that my desire for them drunk might be preventing them from making changes that might otherwise make them better off. Interestingly, tweakers and trippers hold no interest, but junkies do (but there's the whole infectous disease issue going on). And this isn't just my kink: I'd love to do the same for a woman (I realize that there are physical constraints at extreme levels of intoxication, but mostly they haven't tripped me up). I'm still looking for my sweet drunk darlin'... An intoxicated woman is by far the most sexual thing I know, and most of my fantasies involve memories of drunk women.