Discovery Channel trying hard to make people stupid?

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  1. Trond

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    My wife was gaping in amazement at Animal Planet yesterday, and she didn't know what to believe as "scientists" purportedly from the Smithsonian announced that mermaid-like creatures exist. As she called me over, I noticed that the bits and pieces pulled out of a shark's stomach did not look very real, but I wondered how they had gotten anybody from the Smithsonian Institution to say those things. I suspected someone desperate for money and attention, but of course the answer was simpler: they were all actors. Apparently, thousands of people swallowed the show hook line and sinker. There are people online who still think it's real after they realize the scientists were actors, apparently they "did it to protect the real scientists" (major facepalming ensued). I do hope that they realize the Avatar-style CGI was not real footage at least :) (but after all the slightly less fishy dinosaur shows, people are inclined to accept anything as "scientific reconstructions")

    When we came to America and signed up for Discovery Channel and Animal Planet, I guess I was hoping for David Attenborough-style documentaries. Instead, we get "mockumentaries" that arguably make people stupider (they also made a show claiming that the extinct shark Megalodon still exists and is currently munching on some of the biggest whales), and had me doubting a serious scientific institution (Smithsonian, not Animal Planet :D). People are so gullible that they will believe things given far less "evidence" than this. Sadly, it's all about the ratings, so I guess they don't care. Rant over.
     
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    All of those channels have long stopped being useful. Discovery, TLC, History, etc. Reality bullshit and other un-scientific tripe has taken over. Very little of what gets shown on there can be classified as even remotely educational.
     
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    In America, I would still recommend PBS, though Nova has gotten a little like the ones you're talking about.
     
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    Why do you think the Tea Party, or the main republican party has so many followers, these idiots will believe anything.
     
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    the Military channel's still entertaining if you just want to learn about things that go boom ;)
     
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    Only in Japan is it even weirder ;)
     
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    Same could be said about the liberal, socialist, and communist Democrats.
     
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    Oh, and have you guys seen any of the latests documentaries on History Channel?
    They had one on Hannibal (the military commander from Carthage who attacked Rome with elephants) jumping around and looking like a Kung-fu fighter. :D

    Still, not nearly as bad as the " mermaids"
     
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    I HATE the TLC channel...they need to give it a new name and 3 new letters...it's no where close to being "The Learning Channel" as it once was when I was a kid...
     
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    In some cases, but liberals tend to have FACTS, and yes I've checked, behind them. Fox news is about 40% purely made up bullshit. The remaining 60% is partial fact heavily slanted. You want facts, the BBC, the Daily Show, and Colbert Report are the most factual shows on TV. Reaganonics has been proven repeatedly to be crap and detrimental to the economy. Then the Bush's put it on steroids.
     
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    Reclusive, what if I told you that you are actually the problem, not the liberals? People who blindly follow one party and blame the other don't let anything get done.

    Just FYI, US news is suffering the same capitalist rot as the discovery channel, it's not to inform, it's to validate people's preconceived beliefs. I recommend watching BBC or Al Jezeera, you know, real news.
     
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    Liberals have emotions more than facts. I don't watch Fox for news.
    Not true.

    If I stood idle and let the other party get things done, our gun rights would be gone, our taxes would be too high, more and more people would be on welfare, our military would be defunded, hunting, fishing, and trapping would be outlawed, etc. I don't want that for my country. That is not what this country was founded upon in principle. I don't vote based on blind allegiance, I vote based on who will uphold the Constitution and the American way of life.

    All the rhetoric you state is the same I hear from liberals, but the only thing I've heard out of Obama's mouth during his administrations is "it's all Bush's fault".
     
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    You won't ever catch me bowing to kiss the ring of a Warmie or that of a FoxNews-bashing demagogue. FNC-TV isn't infallible; lately some of its programming smacks of MSM-rot. But if you saw it on FoxNews it's more likely to be true than if you saw it on NBC or heard it on National Propaganda Radio (NPR). FoxNews-TV never EDITED a recorded phone-call to make a "racist©" of someone!:yell

    Life's complicated enough without highly-paid liars making it more-so. But they do. "The truth can hold its own if you can get it into the room." That's why the truth so-enrages some whose agenda is threatened by it. I wish I had a better solution that saying MAKE the time to do your homework whenever a "news" item seems doubtful. But I won't pretend I know a shortcut. Learn who the habitually truthful ARE, and who the liars are. Nobody can make you stupid without your permission.
     
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    Yeah, but our emotions follow the scientific method, and are peer reviewed by experts in their respective fields. The fossil record gives us very strong emotional evidence that life evolved from simpler stuff, our climate model computers are programmed with all the emotion of a scientist and bias of mathematics. We feel like gay people are just born gay and neuroscientists feel like concurring with that. We feel like every military empire in history has spent itself to death acting like a world cop.

    Good thing we have scientific people with facts about science that come straight out of the bible, Exxon labs to set us straight on climate science, and businessmen to educate us about anthropology :)


    Fun fact: no liberal president has ever suggested take your guns away, Fox lied to you about that. All the intellectuals want is a licensing, training, testing, and registration system, like we have with cars.

    Fun fact: the corporate tax code is different than the personal one, making billion dollar companies pay taxes doesn't raise your own.

    Fun fact: corporate welfare is also welfare, and much more expensive

    Fun fact: we don't want to defund the military, we just don't think it's financially responsible to police the entire world.

    Fun fact: The PATRIOT Act violated 4 constitutional amendments and is the reason the NSA is allowed to do what it's doing, signed by president bush.

    If you go by stereotypes rather than data, you're going to have some pretty silly opinions when you look back at them. I can do that too:

    If we had conservative politics:
    Poor people just die, can't afford health care? Too bad. We'd be in perpetual war both policing the world and forcing christianity among everyone. Brown people are shot on site and tried for being a terrorist of illegal immigrant later. The wealthiest people and corporations don't pay taxes and get more corporate welfare, paid for by poor people. Gays are lynched and women aren't allowed to leave the house without their husband with them.
     
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    Holy shit. How the hell did this become so political?? I was talking about mermaids for crying out loud :lol

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    We are just much more versed in psychology now so it's easier for marketers to exploit. Humans are naturally gullible and will fall for really silly stuff with no evidence; case and point:
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    More than half the world believes the world was created by magic and this storybook is the history of it. People are already stupid, sociopathic executives just are exploiting it more.
     
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    Once again BC finds a way to hijack a thread and turn it into something totally different than the OP intended......
     
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    Most all of tv is owned by a handful of companies and do you know what they are interested in doing? That's right making money and having you come back to make more money. That's why I haven't had tv in 6 years and don't miss a thing about it. All of it is such garbage.
     
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    *shrug* I miss watching the Military channel, as stated before. It had some interesting documentaries on the World Wars and such. Were they highly accurate? Nope, but it wasn't completely false and was interesting. Most of the other stuff I can find online if I want to watch it.
     
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    It's not only presidents, it's politicians. Licensing, training, testing, and registration are for privileges, not rights. Firearm ownership is a right. Since we are discussing facts and emotions, there is no evidence that supports any licensing, training, testing, or registration has any positive effect on crime. It's only feel good legislation that further infringes on the rights of Americans. Michigan has had pistol registration since the 1920s and it's only helped to solve a dozen crimes in nearly 100 years. Obama is making efforts to ban semi-auto rifles. That means taking guns away. Biden and Clinton did it when Biden wrote the 1994 AWB, which thankfully expired. Crime with semi-auto rifles has always been nearly non-existent and remains so today. It was also done with Bush Sr with the 1989 import ban.

    Tax codes are different for them because they are different entities. I agree that companies, no matter the size, should pay taxes on their net profit.

    You will find no more passionate combatant of corporate welfare than myself. Government needs to stay out of private business finances and not subsidize any private entity for any reason. I'm even against the farm bills.

    But it's entirely financially responsible to send money to lazy people who don't want to work, send money to countries that hate us, send aid to countries that kill us, buy weapons for civilians in other countries when our own president doesn't see them as being suitable for civilian use in our own country? The problem with foreign affairs that this country struggles with, besides having too many useless embassies and bases, is if we don't step in during certain situations, our enemies will. We don't want Russia, China, Iran, etc being the world's police. The outcome is the demise of the US.

    Yup and I hate that administration for doing it. I also hate my two liberal senators for voting in favor of it.

    Success in life is not an entitlement. Neither is good health.

    History shows this to be false.

    This country was founded by Christians with Christian principles, though you cannot force faith upon someone. For the record, I'm an atheist.

    Seems like you are trying to attribute this to the KKK, which was actually started by Democrats, the same party which also filibustered the Civil Rights Act.

    Funny as the wealthiest (say $100K AGI) people currently pay 70% of the income tax paid into the IRS. The "middle class" so championed by liberals in the $33,000 to $100K AGI range, pay only 27% of the income tax paid into the IRS. Also poor people, with AGI under $33,000 collectively pay less than 3% of all income tax paid into the IRS. So no, poor people don't pay taxes for the most part, when they do it's a fraction of what the wealthy pay. I'm a flat tax proponent. Everyone pays 10% of the income, no deductions, no credits, no BS. You make $30K you pay in $3K. You make $30 million you pay in $3 million.

    Murder is still illegal under conservative politics and caveman mentality isn't a conservative political ideology.