Didn't know where to put this, but....Spanking my wife is a huge turn on for me. She says it doesn't do anything for her. I know she is not averse to pain/pleasure because almost every time we have sex, pinching her nipples really hard helps her to have an orgasm. She doesn't mind a few ass slaps during doggy. She also tried to do otk more or less for me. Surprisingly, she said she likes it better when I use my crop instead of my hand (better...not that she craves it). I have tried to role play punishment, but I believe she has prided herself on always doing the right thing and was never really punished growing up. She doesn't like to talk about sex. Very uncomfortable. But we do have some pretty good sex and get kinky much of the time. She loves to suck my cock. I have realized through the years that things she is averse to or even disgusted by can be re-framed by me to where she might like it. She also can look back at things she would have been averse to or thought it was a bullshit technique but now likes it. For example: erotic lactation, gspot orgasm, squirting. We all can rewire our brain over time to really get off on something. My question is what ideas do you have to where she might start to like it...or understand how it could be a turn-on (I am not going to manipulate or coerce her into this)? And I wonder why the crop feels better than my hand?