Bloodletting?

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  1. whybother

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    I can't wait for @10_3XL to give us his take on this. Myself, I'm unusually at a loss for words...

    xx
     
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    :confused:....Wow...Thats all I can say!
     
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    Here, @Cappy_Dick - I wrote a big long wandering rant just for you. :p

    First of all, I want to smack the ever-living shit out of all the people who mention/mentioned 50 Shades of Grey in relation to kink/fetish/SM life. Ask anyone who's a legitimate member of that community and I'm sure they'll give you an earful on it, too.

    Then there's the, "But one of the members is a doctor! Doctor's take an oath and that means they can't do stuff like this!" Um... Okay... Yes, the Hippocratic Oath states to help & heal and do no harm etc, etc, etc -- but if the situation is controlled and ultimately causing no harm or lasting damage, then I don't see how a physician being a member of a kink/fetish community (even one as baffling as a blood-letting community) is against that oath or contradictory. Maybe I'm just ignorant. I saw nowhere in that a note about spread of infection, disease, or people leaving permanently injured/ill -- so... ... ... the problem is?

    The Health Department getting involved is more than slightly ludicrous. "... Appropriate masks, gowns or aprons, and protective eyewear should be used whenever splashing or spattering of blood or other bodily fluid is likely to occur.” So, I guess that means filming pornography is out the window. Oh, and sports events like hockey/football/boxing/MMA. Or sex -- none of that; your body fluids might splash or splatter. Give me a fucking break, folks.

    One of the members (other than the licensed physician that attends) is a licensed psychotherapist. He points out that, "... dominant-submissive sexual culture is based on consensual agreements and it would be a mistake to judge those who participate in kinky medical play just because there may be some risk involved ... Anything you do in the D/S lifestyle can be risky. There are so many perspectives that are risky. Even from something as simple as a spanking. Even from something as simple as being tied up.” Good point, there, Doc -- but your practices make some people uncomfortable because they are not understood and are different than the societal "norm." Are you sure this isn't secretly a how-to or medical conference rather than a meeting of like-minded and consenting adults who are partaking of fetish activities for their personal pleasure?

    No, I don't understand blood-letting, scrotal inflation, cutting, or things like that. Breath play - very carefully performed, with mutual consent, and very stringent control - is something that my partner and I do from time to time. As pointed out anything has potential risk, but these aren't rank amateurs running around with a set of knives and slashing each other willy-nilly. These are all people who have been in the community for awhile, or if they are newbies then are surrounded by people who know what they're about. If I were at an event like this I'd be relieved to hear there was a licensed (if not on-the-clock) physician in attendance -- if something goes wrong then at least there's a doctor in the house, right?

    So, I say, let Vlad II Dracul and his cronies have their fun. If it's not hurting you or the ones you love, then what the fuck does it matter what these folks are doing?
     
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    I don't have the time or motivation to read this. As someone active in the BDSM community who takes part in blood play, I'll come back and comment once I've actually read.
     
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    Do not read the following if you are squeamish about blood:

    When the boyfriend cuts or scrapes himself, I like to lick the blood. I like to let it drip onto me and lick it off myself too. Then I give him first aid and so on. I have a strong craving to do this. I do get aroused from it. I would never deliberately make him bleed. Strangely, when I get cut or scraped, I'm all boo-hoo about it and not aroused by the blood at all. That's the only thing I know about this kind of play.
     
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    What I read of that article is ridiculous in how it's written. I love blood play but we don't actually tap in with needles or anything like that. Pretty sure that the author of the article meant vein instead of artery.
     
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    Yes, it probably wasn't full arterial tapping - especially if the guy doing it was a licensed physician; he'd know better. I imagine it probably wasn't even to the veins -- just deep enough into a spot on the skin to draw enough blood for the arousal effect... I don't know - this is outta my field.

    The actual use of needles, though, I can imagine might have been a genuine occurrence. That doesn't strike me as any more extreme than cutting, branding, or other forms of "torture" fetish activities.
     
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    I am with you on this one. Completely turned off LOL :)
     
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    That is the kind of piss poor reporting i.would come to expect from fox news, not a decent (most of the time) news agency such as msnbc. Tohe author(s) clearly demonstrated his/her lack of knowledge on this subject. There is a lot wrong with this artical and if i pointed out every part of it i would be typing for a while. I wish people would take the time to educate themselves prior to writing an artical or essay about a subject they know very little about.
     
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    Alright after reading the article and doing research with my husband, the only thing I can do is roll my eyes and say that this is all utter and complete bullshit.

    There is no "arterial tapping". There is bloodletting and cutting/bleeding fetishes though which many, many, MANY individuals take part in. This article is not about that fetish though, it's about publicly calling out a member of the kink community with what amounts to slander and lies. The only mention of any type of blood fetish within this event was for a special version of the event in which a description stated "..it will be participants who will determine what shape the night takes and yes...there will be blood ;)"

    The individual they reference as "Santos" is the CEO of Cirque De Plaisir. He also happens to be a medical professional. This should have no effect on his professional life. He's done absolutely nothing wrong. What it boils down to is someone had it out for him and did something extremely disrespectful in the community by making his personal life known to the entire world. I feel sorry for him, his kink "family" and anyone who's had backlash because of this.
     
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    Sadly, they are not.
     
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    As much as I respect you and your opinions, this line in your replies has bothered me more then I could ever properly express.

    I participate in cutting as a fetish, I also have multiple brands on my body. None of these have ever been torture in any way. Nor will they ever be used as such. My branding and most branding I have ever come across is used as a form of fetish body modification. It isn't done for the sake of hurting, burning or mutilating someone. It's done artfully like a tattoo.

    Furthermore, every cutting scene within my personal life or those I've witnessed as the countless nights out at dungeons, parties or lifestyle events has never been for torture. It's painful, sure, but more then that it's erotic and sensual between two people. You're trusting someone to do something potentially dangerous to your body in a way that will please and excite you. There is absolutely nothing torturous about that. It's intimate.
     
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    My take on what 3xl said is based on his putting torture in bold face print and quotes. I suspect he did that to remove himself as one who is referring to it as torture. It seems he was using the bolding and quotation marks to point out what a whole lot of the uninformed world thinks these things are. In other words, if 3xl himself thought it was torture he would have left the word in ordinary print.

    That aside, the article and the video were nothing more than sensationalism. It was a ridiculous attempt to vilify someone and capitalize on the combination of the Fifty Shades stupidity and a local event.
     
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    I understand but his wasn't bold faced, just quote. I bolded it to point out what part bothered me.
     
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    Please take in mind that what he (as well as myself) may find as torture may well not be considered so by someone else. While i do have tattoos, i will not allow someone, anyone to come at me with a knife or other piercing instrument. While i understand your take on it, as it is something you enjoy, dont get upset witb the ones who will consider it something else. I have two stepkids that are into cutting and that kind of body modification, i have a third stepkid that is into the piercing, however me and the two older ones also have tats. I do not understand their desire for these types of modifications, but it is their bodies and they are adults. I would consider a "Jacobs ladder" torture , but it is done all the time.
     
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    Thanks for mentioning that. I did not notice. At this point I will take a step back and let him clear up anything he may choose to address.

    As far as my opinion goes, I think of torture as something that is inflicted upon a person against his or her will out of sheer cruelty. It is crystal clear to me that your experiences and involvement in the BDSM community have nothing to do with this in the slightest. It's too bad the journalist did not explore further beyond the attempt to sensationalize. That does nothing more than perpetuate false notions about things. For those who are sincerely interested in gaining insight into the truth, maybe there are those who can suggest written resources we can read. If I knew more I would start an educational thread myself.

    Fifty Shades of Gray and the news should not be considered to be educational sources. I fucking hate stereotyping. We've got it with BDSM, the riots, and all over the place. When we start characterizing people according to stereotypes, then society breaks down. As a believer in Christ, I get lumped into stereotyped groupings as well. People often think we believe the world was created in six 24 hour days and that we all go around believing according to what the televangelist clowns say.
     
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    Ok, So back to my original question...

    Why?

    I think Meee explained a "craving" I can understand a certain intimacy in what she described. There is a primal aspect to "licking wounds". It is the most basic caregiving. I guess I don't understand "inflicting" wounds.

    I don't know that I understand from these responses
    How do you actually draw blood?

    I felt the urge to look up "intimate":

    intimate1
    [in-tuh-mit] /ˈɪn tə mɪt/
    Spell Syllables
    adjective
    1.
    associated in close personal relations:
    an intimate friend.
    2.
    characterized by or involving warm friendship or a personally close or familiar association or feeling:
    an intimate greeting.
    3.
    very private; closely personal:
    I guess you are right: It is very close and very private to actually hurt one another.

    Maybe I am not thinking in deep enough philosophical terms about pleasure and pain. I have trouble with pain as pleasure. I guess that was my original question. Can you explain why it is pleasurable?
     
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    I don't have time to read all of the post but I think our blood is fascinating and if my hands were steadier I'd work with it. It's out life source.

    I agree the article is very poorly written and maybe even more poorly researched.

    My philosophy is if it's consenting adults leave them alone.
     
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