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Originally Posted by teamster145 Have two male or two female humans ever reproduced? Without help from a lab. I think not, so then that would be unnatural. If every women felt like kbate, without the

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View Poll Results: would you let homosexuals of whatever gender adopt
yes they should be allowed 30 62.50%
no they should be excluded 7 14.58%
dont know i need more information 2 4.17%
perhaps in the right circumstances 9 18.75%
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Unread 01-14-06   #61 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by teamster145
Have two male or two female humans ever reproduced? Without help from a lab. I think not, so then that would be unnatural. If every women felt like kbate, without the help of modern medicine, the human race would cease to exist. By that logic two women or two men should not be together. I dont hate them for doing it but it is not logical to think that they belong together. How is that for logic. I am not saying they cannot be a happy family.
My god your right. The gays are unnatural! But why stop there my friend?

Has any human ever recovered from cancer? Without help from a lab. I think not, so then that would be unnatural.

As your flawless logic so clearly demonstrates, whatever is unnatural, is wrong. Sure we may feel that we want to treat peoples cancer with drugs, radiation therapy, and surgery, but that doesn't mean we have to act on those feelings! I don't hate people for treating cancer, but its not logical to think that it should be treated. I am not saying it cant ever be cured, just that it is unnatural, and therefore shouldn't be.

Thank you, good sir, for opening my eyes.
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Unread 01-14-06   #62 (permalink)
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Well we were not discussing saving someones life. I think that to sit by and let someone die would be unnatural. Now back on topic. Would you explain to me how living with someone of the same sex should be considered natural and do you think it is a choice? I do think it is a choice and if you want to do it fine but their are consequences for you making that choice.
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Unread 01-15-06   #63 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by teamster145
Well we were not discussing saving someones life. I think that to sit by and let someone die would be unnatural. Now back on topic. Would you explain to me how living with someone of the same sex should be considered natural and do you think it is a choice? I do think it is a choice and if you want to do it fine but their are consequences for you making that choice.
The fact that two people of the same sex want to live together makes it natural. The unnatural is the non existent.

Yes, I think practicing homosexuality (or heterosexuality) is a choice. But the desire to do so is beyond the control of the individual. Most importantly, its just none of your damn business.

I am going to bow out of this discussion now. It has moved too far from the original topic and I have learned that is a waste of time attempting to reason with certain types of people.
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Unread 01-18-06   #64 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by teamster145
Well we were not discussing saving someones life. I think that to sit by and let someone die would be unnatural. Now back on topic. Would you explain to me how living with someone of the same sex should be considered natural and do you think it is a choice? I do think it is a choice and if you want to do it fine but their are consequences for you making that choice.
Why should there be consequences? Does adoption not exist so that those unable to conceive by nature may rear children who otherwise would be reared in the foster system or be wards of the state in orphanages? Why should any responsible adult couple be disallowed.

What else is the point of adoption agencies?

I won't bother posting here again. Dealing with closet homophobia is impossible.
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Unread 01-18-06   #65 (permalink)
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There are consequences in all of life for doing things that are not right. And consequences after life as well.I am done as well. Dealing with people who cannot see the wrong in what they are doing is impossible.
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Unread 01-19-06   #66 (permalink)
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And consequences after life as well.
And there we have it, the true cause for your distaste of homosexual behavior. I was wondering how long it would take to come out.

Your faith/religion is fine for you, but you must remember than in a free country, laws can not be made or dissolved on the basis of anyones religion. That would include laws relating to adoption.

Next time just be honest about where your opinions come from instead of trying to back them up with pseudo-logic. Because honestly, you're not very good at it.
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Unread 01-22-06   #67 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by teamster145
One more thing I was reading through the other posts and seen one about being gay not being a choice. It is a choice. You may have those feelings but it is a choice to act on those. There are a lot of feelings I have but I do not act on them because to act on them would be wrong. Life is not about if it feels good do it. People do lots of things and when they get older they regret ever doing it because of the impact it had on their family or their children or for whatever reason. But I do believe you would have to agree that it is a choice to act on your homosexual feelings. I do not know why you have them or why some people feel compelled to act on them. I gotta go eat dinner. Be back later.
I have revisted this thread a few times now, and see that it is still a hot button issue for lots people. Just so teamster145 doesn't feel too alone, I do back him up on this. I agree with this statement completely. Honestly...I do feel some bisexual urges every once in a while. Although I am happily married with a child on the way. However, I choose not to act upon those urges because they are simply wrong.

Anyway, this again, is my own opinon. I'm just putting in my 2 cents to back teamster145 up. As you can see from my other posts. I just put my post up here for the heck of it, and then refuse to fight with anyone else that wants to. I'm not out here to change minds, but to support what other people are saying.
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Unread 01-23-06   #68 (permalink)
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Getting back to the original question....I have no problem with gay/lesbian adoption whatsoever. If something were ever to happen to myself and my SO, our best friend would have gardianship of our Daughter. And you guessed it, she's a lesbian! She is a lot like us in many ways, and I know she would instill the morals and values that we believe in. For me, there is no other choice in who would take the best care of my little one, regardless in who she sleeps with.
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Unread 02-20-06   #69 (permalink)
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I am interested, how did you form this opinion? Why do you believe a man and a woman are required, what makes that perfect?
I have noticed as many heterosexual relationships producing screwed up children as with the children of homosexual relationships. I am constantly told that "the fabric of the American family could be damaged" by homosexual marriage, and by homosexual adoption, but nobody has ever managed to explain in what way this would happen, or even what the "fabric of the American Family " actually is.
Help me.
Just to put in my two cents... if I dare, lol... I think that anyone who can responsibly raise caring and respectful children, see to their needs, pay attention to them, shield them from all the violence and crap on TV and in school, should get a certificate and be allowed to adopt. I also think you should have to pass this test to conceive on your own. Irregardless of your sexual orientation, period.
To many mean and ignorant morons are having kids every day. Hopefully some of these kids will be given up for adoption, to be raised by loving people, hetero, gay, or even single. Its certainly a better alternative than them ending up in jail or worse because of parents who didn't give a rats butt.
JMHO, I'm straight, with two kids, been with my hubby for 18 years, so I'm not biased in any way... I'm just tired of all this politically correct, you can't do this, you can't do that crap.
t Not letting gays adopt because they are gay is ridiculous. Its equal to "Family affirmative action". You should be chosen based on merit, to exclude gays is like excluding white men because they are white... its idiotic.

Okay..... Here it comes...
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Unread 02-20-06   #70 (permalink)
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t Not letting gays adopt because they are gay is ridiculous. Its equal to "Family affirmative action". You should be chosen based on merit, to exclude gays is like excluding white men because they are white... its idiotic
Do not even get me started on Affirmative Action.

In relation to the adoption issue, meh, the majority of parents suck at parenting anyway, not like we'll break the average by allowing people of different orientation to adopt.
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