You can say what ever you want,but I know what I experienced at three different colleges and my friends after school,these were your regular college guys that wanted to get laid and THEY TREATED THEIR WOMEN LIKE CRAP AND ALWAYS HAD WOMEN AND THE WOMEN KEEP COMING BACK OR THEY WOULD FIND ANOTHER ONE,these were women who were going to school and later on women who were educated and in the business world so these were not mentally messed up people.
BASS DUDE I respect your post and I am glad the women in your life back in the day liked the nice guy,BUT once again I know what I experienced [not an opinion ]if you are to nice you are put into the friend category and you will not be having as good of time as your friends.
The people I knew including myself who I considered nice to women, met any term you want to put out there.
MAKESMEWONDER Like I said earlier I was in your spot years ago and until you get a girl do not have so many women who are just friends,The guys I knew years ago had zero women friends except me who had no girlfriend until I stopped having so many women friends and changed my personality and started getting women.
I have also found that later in life when women finally get tired of the guys who do not treat them good they come to the nice guys and we are appreciated.