Vibrating WITHOUT a vibrator!?!

Originally Posted by Rose

I tend to agree with Kanto's thoughts: being sexually aroused causes a great deal of blood to flow to the erogenous zones. Suddenly exposing those blood vessels to this wonderful pleasure could cause some sort of muscular reaction. But remember, none of us are doctors here, so we're all just speculating.

Another possibility is that she is experiencing some form of vaginismus. That's when penetration is painful and even next to impossible, due to the uncontrollable tightening of the muscles at the vaginal opening. She could try some PC exercises to gain more control over these "unruly" muscles, and it can be treated, but a GYN needs to be brought into the picture.

It is thought that many cases of vaginismus are psychological in nature - brought on by sexual abuse, fear of the pain or, as you mentioned in your original post, upbringing that insinuates that sex is somehow taboo or "wrong".

I applaud your sexual awakening and hope that this minor setback won't keep you from pressing forward. I once had a pastor who told me that what a couple does in the privacy of their own bedroom (or wherever) is their own business. It develops a closeness and one-ness that is the epitome of the union our Creator had in mind from the beginning of creation!

Originally Posted by Cowboy Lover

Originally Posted by OkWhyNot

So, yeah, it's kinda a lot of baggage to deal with...when you're programmed to think God Himself doesn't approve of Oral Sex, then how on earth could he approve of 'toys'?

Originally Posted by AnonymousOne

Yeah ... your group (ex-group) is a little on the ... strange side.

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Originally Posted by OkWhyNot

Nice pic. All my wives are blond though.

Originally Posted by OkWhyNot

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That's pretty much it...my wife is on the road to allowing porn into our sex lives, she feels strongly that she's bisexual (and is VERY interested in having experiences with women)...and as for me, I'm actually a bit worried that she'll like women more than, well, me and what will that mean for 'us'. But I'm also quite excited for her to be the real her, and I will support her in that 100%, no matter what it means for me.

Originally Posted by AnonymousOne

Yeah ... your group (ex-group) is a little on the ... strange side.

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Originally Posted by Rose

Cute little diversion of humor (yes, the little smileys didn't go unnoticed ) - but let's be careful to

#2: Refrain from singling out any one religious organization.

Love, Rose

Originally Posted by BassDude

Dude, I think you are worrying about something that you do NOT need to worry about! The odds that she will leave you for another woman are pretty slim to none. On the other hand, you helping her open up her mind and really enjoy the gift of sex will absolutely endear her to you, in my opinion! So, work on dropping your own inhibitions and insecurities too. In fact, if your wife is bi-curious, one day you very well might get to experience something that most men can only fantasize about...a threesome with your wife and another lady!

And your last statement really says something great in my opinion...you are putting your wife before your own concerns (although helping her open up sexually is also a good thing for you as well!). That's a very unselfish statement...kudos to you!

I'm becoming more and more convinced that human beings simply reach a point where they start to reject rules that don't seem to have a good reason to exist (like anti-porn, etc.) and just learn to enjoy ourselves and live a little, rather than trying to morally reform everyone else.

BD

Originally Posted by AnonymousOne

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Originally Posted by OkWhyNot

Actually, nothing at all outrageous or new to this crew. But for US it is (if you knew my wife 6 months ago you'd never in a million years believe this change in her).

In addition to the vibrator, which has really helped her to feel sensations much better (she's always had issues with feeling sensations down there)...my wife has realized / strongly feels that she is bi-sexual. So this has meant a gradual 'opening up' of new things: talking about / having her fantasize about being with women, her watching LWord and online videos of girls making out etc, (with clothes / lingerie etc.). I'll sneak in the odd video of naked women going all the way, but it makes her upset as she feels too guilty to watch 'real porn' at present (30 years of religious mind control doesn't get undone in just a few weeks, but we're working on it). She actually actively protested against porn for years within our church. So as well as the religious things she's working on de-programming, she has the moral 'porn is bad' to de-program too (if she chooses to).

That's pretty much it...my wife is on the road to allowing porn into our sex lives, she feels strongly that she's bisexual (and is VERY interested in having experiences with women)...and as for me, I'm actually a bit worried that she'll like women more than, well, me and what will that mean for 'us'. But I'm also quite excited for her to be the real her, and I will support her in that 100%, no matter what it means for me.

THANKS.